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And doing it during the rush hour, when he is supposedly driving to the Golf Club, so he must be posting via the phone while driving!
Not a particularly good effort at a wind up imo.
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And doing it during the rush hour, when he is supposedly driving to the Golf Club, so he must be posting via the phone while driving!
Not a particularly good effort at a wind up imo.
Delc you need to have a serious look at the crap you've posted throughout this (and I'm not a supporter of any political party) At best it's a fishing trip to deliberately antagonise and at worse nothing more than bigoted clap trap
That aside, it's not just London though is it. Bracknell is gridlocked most mornings and evenings. There are huge queues from the town centre out to the M3 by 7.00 every weekday and the A329M in from the M4 and Reading also tails back by the same time. Same going the other way at the end of the working day and the inevitable outcome is the town centre iteself then gets clogged up. We have several industrial areas and the traffic in and out of those adds to the problem and there are plans to build on place like Blue Mountain Golf Club which only has narrow roads around the existing housing there and which will only feed onto the main roads already unable to cope. Add in the predicted housing for other parts of the area and it's an already bad situation that will only ever get worse
That aside, it's not just London though is it. Bracknell is gridlocked most mornings and evenings. There are huge queues from the town centre out to the M3 by 7.00 every weekday and the A329M in from the M4 and Reading also tails back by the same time. Same going the other way at the end of the working day and the inevitable outcome is the town centre iteself then gets clogged up. We have several industrial areas and the traffic in and out of those adds to the problem and there are plans to build on place like Blue Mountain Golf Club which only has narrow roads around the existing housing there and which will only feed onto the main roads already unable to cope. Add in the predicted housing for other parts of the area and it's an already bad situation that will only ever get worse
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Speaking as an old duffer who, during his working lifetime had to drive 35000+ miles p.a. I cannot understand anybody driving in the rush-hours when they do not need to.
But then I do not understand why so many children are driven to school rather than walking.
An unfortunate by-product of the policy allowing parents to choose any school is that a village like ours where the State school places are in demand and there is an independent school grinds to a halt twice a day due to limited public transport links. Add these children to the locals who, seemingly, can't walk to school and from 8.20 to 9.10 and 2.45 to 4.15 and you have chaos.
The nearest job I had to home in the last 15 years of my working life was 16 miles away, and one was 48 miles away. Part of being a flexible labour force I suppose! A bit far to walk I think! :mmm:
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With a title like that I expected a venting post about being stuck in traffic for a bit......but what the hell have I just read? Wow, simply wow.
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FWIW. My 'fatalistic' opinion of congestion is that it will never really get any better than it currently is - at least not for long!
The existing congestion is created by people who are prepared to tolerate it at the current level. If the congestion is relieved, then all that really happens is that more of the folk who weren't prepared to tolerate it now pour into the stream, so the congestion reverts back to pretty much the level it previously was - though with a higher throughput.
The goal of a Traffic Engineer when addressing congestion is not to actually eliminate the congestion - as that is impossible - but to increase the throughput while balancing the needs/demands of 'the system' - which is the requirement for traffic to enter and exit without also causing excessive congestion.
The same 'optimum flow' can/should be/is? applied to Golf!
The existing congestion is created by people who are prepared to tolerate it at the current level. If the congestion is relieved, then all that really happens is that more of the folk who weren't prepared to tolerate it now pour into the stream, so the congestion reverts back to pretty much the level it previously was - though with a higher throughput.
The goal of a Traffic Engineer when addressing congestion is not to actually eliminate the congestion - as that is impossible - but to increase the throughput while balancing the needs/demands of 'the system' - which is the requirement for traffic to enter and exit without also causing excessive congestion.
The same 'optimum flow' can/should be/is? applied to Golf!
Khamelion
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I think they should have special lanes to and from all golf clubs for golfers like they do for taxis and buses. So you can have a golfer painted in the lane dressed up in golfers uniform, holding a 7 iron or something like that. And you can only use the lane if you have a set of golf clubs or other golfing paraphernalia visible in the car. Surely that's a vote winner.
I'd vote for that, it would get used a hell of a lot more than the bus lanes round here :thup:
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The population is growing at rate services cannot cope with. Immigration is just one of the causes but not the sole reason by any means.
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Also people are living longer lives are they not ?
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Yes but most of those shouldn't even be on the road
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I guess they'll blame the lack of warning! :rofl:
They perhaps have an excuse with immigration, but they get 17 years+ notice of new drivers!
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This was an admission from Tony Blair's speech writer Andrew Neather after Labour were defeated at the last election. "Labour's immigration policy was to open up the UK to mass immigration to rub the Right's nose in diversity". I think that the Labour Party was hoping that the immigrants would be so grateful at being allowed to settle in our land of milk and honey that they would all vote for them. Fortunately this didn't work! I have nothing against immigrants by the way, only Governments who let them in without considering the effects on our native population and our infrastructure.
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What the heck does that have to do with your traffic jam in the morning whilst you are going to your golf club
Yes the country has allowed immigrants to enter the country and there are issues with that but to point the blame on them for your traffic issues is a disgrace tbh
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What don't you understand about an increasing population with the same infrastructure (roads, schools, hospitals, etc) causing problems? :mmm:
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Please stop trying to justify yourself
The traffic jam you see every morning isnt down to immigrants
The increasing population isn't just down to immigrants
The fact you can't get to your golf club in the morning isn't just down to immigrants
In the morning the amount of mothers/fathers driving their kids to school has increased a great deal - that's not because of immigrants
People drive into work for 2 miles instead of walking or cycling - that's not because of immigrants
The standard of our public transport is very very poor - that's not because of immigrants
Hopefully you get to see the picture
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Del,
You are trying to connect two almost totally unrelated items with not a shred of evidence!
When you can come up with results from a reliable survey that identifies the number of (recent) immigrants that are in your congested commute - as opposed to all the other reasons folk might be in it - then I will consider it worth considering.
Until that time I'm calling it 'complete B/S' and that (as usual?) you are just being a fantacist! I believe the pub down the road towards Northwood caters can assist with that, for a fee! Those immigrants are probably Brazilian! :rofl:
You are trying to connect two almost totally unrelated items with not a shred of evidence!
When you can come up with results from a reliable survey that identifies the number of (recent) immigrants that are in your congested commute - as opposed to all the other reasons folk might be in it - then I will consider it worth considering.
Until that time I'm calling it 'complete B/S' and that (as usual?) you are just being a fantacist! I believe the pub down the road towards Northwood caters can assist with that, for a fee!
Those immigrants are probably Brazilian! :rofl:
Frankly, no I don't! Prior to mass immigration under Labour, the UK's population was stable or even declining slightly.
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Calling B/S on that statement too!
In the last 50 years there have only been 2 periods when population has decreased. There was also plenty of factors other than immigration (that policy didn't change), including availability/use of Birth Control and a simple reflection of the 'baby boom' cycle! There were also a couple of economic downturns that probably had an effect too.
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Here's the info I was using!
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/pop-e...hern-ireland/2013/sty-population-changes.html
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/pop-e...hern-ireland/2013/sty-population-changes.html
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