Today's HOC Vote

lobthewedge said:
So what was your point caller?

Edit - actually, don't bother answering, I couldn't give a monkeys!

For or against, right or wrong, the decision has been made. Good luck to all our British boys and girls, here's hoping you vapourize some bad guys and get back to us safe.
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I would have thought my point was blindingly obvious, Scotland are once again being dragged into a war that it's citizens do not want.
 
Crazyface said:
Should we go in and join everyone else bombing in Syria?

Usually I'd say yes. This time though, I'd much rather have the money spent on boosting our internal security forces. Police, Secret or otherwise, anyone rooted out by these people immediately removed with immediate effect to where they came from, and a serious tightening of our boarders with a big increase in immigration officials and facilities.
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At one time I would have yes, send the RAF in but now I'm more inclined with agree with the above. I would even go as far as deporting the so called 'British' citizens that support the extremists and send them to the region of their choice as they are clearly not British or have the best interests of Britain at heart. To hell with their so called human rights, I have a right to live peacefully and harmoniously in my own country.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I would have thought my point was blindingly obvious, Scotland are once again being dragged into a war that it's citizens do not want.
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Did I miss the formation of Scotland's armed forces ? Or another vote for independence

There was me thinking we were all as one
 
Doon frae Troon said:
We obviously did not vote all as one.:lol:
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"We" all voted as one

What "we" wanted will always be different because you will never get 100% backing

But once the result have been sorted "we" are still one nation
 
Doon frae Troon said:
We obviously did not vote all as one.:lol:
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Attempting to score Independance Political points off the back of a vote to go to war is low.. Even for someone as blinkered to reality as you appear to be at times.. I may not support the decision in the slightest, but I will "move forward as one".
 
chippa1909 said:
History will view Cameron's 70,000 moderates as it does Tony Blair's WMD's.
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I'm certain it won't!

The suposed WMDs were the entire basis for Blair's justification for going in. It's a totally different reason (and little to do with the moderates) for which justification is being sought this time!
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Yes 57 of Scotland's 59 MP voted against the war.
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Why do you turn every political debate into a Scotland vs the rest ?!

Every MP had a vote and the majority of UK MP's voted in favour

What 57 out of 59 voted is irrelevant

The U.K. Government voted as one
 
No worries, Scotland. When the Syrians refugues come over we'll send them all up to you and you can look after them all if you're so concerned for their well being. Oh....you're not are you. You just want everything and give nothing back. Well it doesn't work like that. We (Britain) are a democratic country and we are all in this together, so suck it up and get involved in supporting the Union that you voted for.
 
chippa1909 said:
Poll published today in Herald and Scotsman newspapers.

http://m.heraldscotland.com/news/14117707.Poll__72__of_Scots_oppose_extending_air_strikes_in_Syria/
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These pills need taken with a pinch of salt as I don't believe they offer a fair cross section of what public opinion is. It's interestin that I've never been asked to participate in these pills and I really don't know anyone who has.

There are 12 people in my office and no-one objects to bombing them. Does that mean 100% agreement of Scots?
 
Crazyface said:
No worries, Scotland. When the Syrians refugues come over we'll send them all up to you and you can look after them all if you're so concerned for their well being. Oh....you're not are you. You just want everything and give nothing back. Well it doesn't work like that. We (Britain) are a democratic country and we are all in this together, so suck it up and get involved in supporting the Union that you voted for.
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We've already taken 2 plane loads in
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I would have thought my point was blindingly obvious, Scotland are once again being dragged into a war that it's citizens do not want.
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No one wants war, but it's a necessary evil sometimes. I and many others believe now is one of those times, oh that can't be right can it as we are all Scottish citizens too.

You need to stop generalising and assume that Scottish MP's are speaking for the majority, they are speaking for their parties wishes not necessarily the people they are supposed to represent.
 
Disappointed at so many politicians seemingly toeing the party line on this and not using their own free will and judgement.

As difficult a decision as this was for them, this is what they were elected to do. Not hide behind political allegiances.
 
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