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I'd be interested in what the 'title' of that list was!
The Words of Wisdom of Boris Johnson - Foreign Secretary
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I'd be interested in what the 'title' of that list was!
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Following comments abut hijacking and memorials, a thread about the "words of wisdom" of folk closer to home is appropriate than old Boris!
Doon frae Troon
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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And so it is reported that at Cabinet, Mr Johnson has resurrected his belief that all illegal immigrants having more than 10yrs residency in the UK should be given an amnesty and allowed to stay.
Nice one Mr Johnson - though you have upset Farage; the Faragista - many of whom would be supporters of yourself.
A good call IMO - but methinks you have burned the boats that might have taken you to be lead boss in #10.
Nice one Mr Johnson - though you have upset Farage; the Faragista - many of whom would be supporters of yourself.
A good call IMO - but methinks you have burned the boats that might have taken you to be lead boss in #10.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Nice one Boris - speaking to Trump via Fox and Friends. I suppose that tells us where we are with our close relationship - though Secretary of State Pompeo is best of the rest.
Meanwhile back in the UK why is Johnson not being sacked for calling 'crazy' Theresa May's preferred position of a Customs Partnership - which remains #10s favoured approach to solving the NI/EU border solution and meeting the concerns of UK business? Just get rid of him.
Meanwhile back in the UK why is Johnson not being sacked for calling 'crazy' Theresa May's preferred position of a Customs Partnership - which remains #10s favoured approach to solving the NI/EU border solution and meeting the concerns of UK business? Just get rid of him.
Doon frae Troon
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Johnson and Farage have done unaccountable damage to the UK but I bet both will end up in the House of Lords.
MegaSteve
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BoJo is a certainty... However, I am not sure there's anyone amongst the political elite who'd favour seeing 'Sir' Nige as a Lord...
I seem to remember that the vote for a Customs Partnership went 7-6 against, or is this another number you're skewing for the sake of your argument. There's plenty of media outlets saying the new Home Sec voted against, which swung the vote. It might be May's preferred option but it isn't the Cabinet's preferred option.
Old Skier
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Your talking votes again, not the mans favorite topic especially as there was only one in it.
ColchesterFC
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Isn't he right though? If one of the main benefits (according to many Leavers) of leaving the EU is the ability to strike our own trade deals around the world then surely it would be "crazy" to sign up to an agreement with the EU that would prevent us from doing exactly that.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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By #10 I mean the PM as it is the PM who resides at #10. I didn't say the Cabinet. I know what the Cabinet vote was. And it most certainly demonstrates that - all along - the government has had no detailed plan or contingency for leaving the Custom Union - despite what we were told about the plans being too sensitive for us to be told about. The truth is that they just didn't exist. And for two - May and Johnson both knew that.
No PM should put up with the insurrection activities and words of Johnson.
And also continues to demonstrate how circumspect you are with the truth.
And the PM isn't a dictator. Johnson is a loose cannon, without a doubt, but how about displaying a balanced argument that puts forward all of what goes on at #10, where the cabinet meets.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Because if you publicly humiliated or undermined the position of the PM you'd get sacked or be forced to resign.
I am talking about the behaviour of Mr Johnson. Cabinet collective responsibility - what is said in Cabinet stays on Cabinet?
Johnson is one duplicitous self-serving individual.
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Boris getting some media pelters today for his absence for the Heathrow expansion vote given his 'I'll lie down in front of the bulldozers' quote, yet flying around the world instead of voting...irony. Calls (yet again) for his resignation, some from Tories. Summed up nicely by these tweets from Jess Phillips(Labour) and Darren McCaffrey(Sky) -
"Boris Johnson saga on Heathrow is pathetic. If he fronted it out either way he'd be better off. This is the s**t that makes people hate politicians. Boris has learnt that he gets applause saying the easy stuff, he'd get respect if he said the hard stuff"
"From claims of £350m for the NHS to Heathrow, @BorisJohnson is increasingly exposing himself to claims that he is a politician who cannot be trusted. Or what critics argue, a man more interested in his career than political principles."
"Boris Johnson saga on Heathrow is pathetic. If he fronted it out either way he'd be better off. This is the s**t that makes people hate politicians. Boris has learnt that he gets applause saying the easy stuff, he'd get respect if he said the hard stuff"
"From claims of £350m for the NHS to Heathrow, @BorisJohnson is increasingly exposing himself to claims that he is a politician who cannot be trusted. Or what critics argue, a man more interested in his career than political principles."
SwingsitlikeHogan
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And the Secretary of State for Transport - Mr Utterly Useless (aka Chris Grayling) tells us that he doesn't actually know where the FS is. Mr Boris Me-Myself-I has extracted himself from the vote and any embarrassment - not that he might cause the government - but that he himself might feel.
I’ll give you the Boris is an absolutely duplicitous odious individual but I feel Chris Grayling has done some very good things during a very difficult time to be in office.
Taking the the east coast line back under the govt wing is a start, and no doubt a tough decision but at least he made it.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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What has Chris Grayling actually done on his own initiative rather than responding to problems? On the East Coast line - what alternative did he have? Then he pretends it was a difficult decision. He says absolutely nothing of value, and when interviewed talks inconsequential tosh for as long as he has to then walks away no doubt feeling he has done what the government needed him to do and, it seems, completely unaware of how inadequate he is - in this and in every previous role he has held.
But then again Mr Me-Myself-I is way beyond any level of criticism that might be levelled at Grayling.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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And so we hear from the FS - from somewhere that cannot be revealed (how convenient ) - and he tells us that his resignation to enable him to vote against the government - holding to what he said - would achieve absolute nothing.
Well dear FS - you are wrong as your resignation over this would demonstrate that you have at least an inkling of an idea of what a principled position is - and we'd get rid of you. But am I not surprised that he has not resigned over it - because as usual it's all about himself.
Well dear FS - you are wrong as your resignation over this would demonstrate that you have at least an inkling of an idea of what a principled position is - and we'd get rid of you. But am I not surprised that he has not resigned over it - because as usual it's all about himself.
"and we'd get rid of you." You're more interested in getting rid of him than what his position is. Let's be honest here, this whole thread of yours is about how bad Boris is, and how damaging he is. You will highlight absolutely everything you possibly can to paint him badly.
He's an odious politician who'd sell his gran, as we all know, but don't you think you also look a little obsessed, or even deranged, the way you go on about him.
But if you want to have a go at a politician about them changing their tune to suit, pick almost any of them. Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott definitely. Add Michael Gove to the list, and the two previous leaders of the LibDems. The list is almost endless.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I have very little time for those Labour politicians you mention and will happily criticise them for their own ineptitudes and evasions. Gove I could see why he did what he did to the FS.
But the FS is just an out-and-out chancer. My pointing this out is simply given my concern that there are many in the UK - it seems - who would have him as PM - and of course that is what he is after and so will squirm, wriggle, bluster, evade and deceive as is required to meet that end. Some will say - well aren't all MPs like that? Well they aren't - and indeed very few are in cabinet positions with realistic ambitions of becoming PM. He is our FS - he represents the UK abroad and is the face of the UK. Some face.
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