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The Words of Wisdom of Boris Johnson - Foreign Secretary

maxfli65 said:
Not entirely sure what Boris is doing, seems like he is being advised to say shocking things so as to get headlines, doesn't matter if they are good or bad headlines just publicity. Some say it's deflection from the divorce case where he is to be listed as an adulterer by his fed up soon to be ex mrs, others say he just says what needs saying.
The suicide vest analogy just seems too much though, even for him.
Apparently if he forced and then won a leadership battle, enough tory MPs would quit so he had no parliamentary majority, couldn't govern, he really is marmite. Dont think he's helped himself last few days tbh.
Seems true he does knock May's plans but comes up with little in terms of his own ideas or options. Just winging it to become PM any way possible.
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I think his analogy is quite good. It will of course offend those looking to be offended.
 
SocketRocket said:
I think his analogy is quite good. It will of course offend those looking to be offended.
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It is a disgraceful analogy - utterly crass and inflammatory - aimed simply and those who think it's spot on - conflating Brexit with anti-Islam feelings held by a certain sector of the UK electorate. And this is especially so given the direct implication is that it is May who has personally wrapped that suicide vest around the UK constitution in the way that the suicide bomber rarely works alone.

If he had so wished Johnson could have chosen many other analogies - how about May's Chequers proposal has Barnier able to pull the rug out from under the UK Constitution

And yet some think that the language out of Johnson is OK. Unbelievable.
 
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SocketRocket said:
I think his analogy is quite good. It will of course offend those looking to be offended.
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I agree!

@SILH. Seems to me that you are trying to interpret his analogy rather than just accepting it as an analogy!

Doesn't alter the fact that I think he's an odious, self-promoting pillock!
 
Foxholer said:
I agree!

@SILH. Seems to me that you are trying to interpret his analogy rather than just accepting it as an analogy!

Doesn't alter the fact that I think he's an odious, self-promoting pillock!
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Of course I am - he said this deliberately - it is a disgraceful analogy and he could have used many more without conflating Brexit and terrorism.

I believe that he is doing this to curry favour with a section of the Tory Party Membership - a section that makes it difficult for him to seriously castigated and rebuked by the Leadership and those Tory Party MPs who might face deselection by their local party if they speak out against him.

It is the Steve Bannon playbook for Trump. And look where the US is with Trump. Trump can say whatever he wants and 35% of the US electorate still support him as they have been led into believing that he does little wrong - and what he does do wrong is excusable.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
It is a disgraceful analogy - utterly crass and inflammatory - aimed simply and those who think it's spot on - conflating Brexit with anti-Islam feelings held by a certain sector of the UK electorate. And this is especially so given the direct implication is that it is May who has personally wrapped that suicide vest around the UK constitution in the way that the suicide bomber rarely works alone.

If he had so wished Johnson could have chosen many other analogies - how about May's Chequers proposal has Barnier able to pull the rug out from under the UK Constitution

And yet some think that the language out of Johnson is OK. Unbelievable.
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Seek and you will find
 
So Boris is all over the media for running (wobbling) in a wheat field in order, it is said, to directly take the mickey out of May in the middle of the Tory Conference, ref her naughtiest thing she ever did was running in a wheat field quote.

What's the views on this?
When is an official tilt at leadership coming - at conference or somewhere down the line?
Clearly a loose cannon but the media always give him the platform, despite the fact he's just a backbencher. That's very annoying.

Will it work in his favour? Think with everyone he amuses with controversial quotes or silly japes like this he annoys someone else in his own party intensely. Could he really get enough support in a leadership battle with the way the 1922 run it? Numbers would suggest no but stranger things have happened.

I just can't get to to like the guy, I dont think he has the credentials to be a good PM and whilst popular with large sections of Tory support would be terrible for the unity or disunity of the UK....imho. Hoping he does make a pitch for PM and fails miserably, just get him out of the picture please.:confused:
 
Great speech today from Bojo, Mrs Mays not happy with it so that’s a plus.

He got many standing ovations today and then a wee while later all Mrs May got was people booing, surely she will soon see the light and Chuck Chequers, it will not work, the EU are against it ( as with everything else) the DUP won’t back it as it stands and 40+ of her own side will not back it.

I voted for the government and really thought she would do a good job for the country, but she is just now making herself look stupid, for the good of the country and for the good of Brexit it’s time to let someone else take over, not sure if Bojo is the right choice but if it came down to her or him, he would get my vote.
 
Currently watching BBC News Channel and seeing and listening to Johnson talking - albeit very unconvincingly - total tripe, and getting hammered left right and centre. Just been clobbered from behind by a rather angry Tory colleague. And he is not looking or sounding very good at all. What a hoot. I think he is going to be continuing with this waffle for a good while yet. And to think this guy could be PM and led the Leave troops to victory - before walking away.
 
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Doon frae Troon said:
Thank goodness you are not watching HoC TV.
He is waffling more rubbish than a drunk Saturday night Con Club bore.
Amateur night in the big hoose.
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I think I was watching same news feed from the HoC - it was actually painful listening to him when reflecting what he has been about these last two years i.e himself.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Currently watching BBC News Channel and seeing and listening to Johnson talking - albeit very unconvincingly - total tripe, and getting hammered left right and centre. Just been clobbered from behind by a rather angry Tory colleague. And he is not looking or sounding very good at all. What a hoot. I think he is going to be continuing with this waffle for a good while yet. And to think this guy could be PM and led the Leave troops to victory - before walking away.
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And at that point the House more than half empty. Very disappointed in Corbyn. He spent most of his time on domestic issues like eduction and policing. The debate was supposed to be about the Deal.

Best I've seen May perform by some margin. Unfortunately she has very few friends.
 
Hobbit said:
And at that point the House more than half empty. Very disappointed in Corbyn. He spent most of his time on domestic issues like eduction and policing. The debate was supposed to be about the Deal.

Best I've seen May perform by some margin. Unfortunately she has very few friends.
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It was always going to be sound byte central Brian, do you honestly believe that lot can have a serious debate without resorting to points scoring.
Funny how BJ came across ok on the bbc this morning with edited highlights of his speech 😂
 
Beezerk said:
It was always going to be sound byte central Brian, do you honestly believe that lot can have a serious debate without resorting to points scoring.
Funny how BJ came across ok on the bbc this morning with edited highlights of his speech 😂
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Typical left-wing anti-Brexit BBC bias.

BTW - I also listened to Dame Margaret Beckett's speech around 9pm - boy was she authoritative and on the money. Calm, clear, logical and lucid - everything that Johnson wasn't.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Typical left-wing anti-Brexit BBC bias.

BTW - I also listened to Dame Margaret Beckett's speech around 9pm - boy was she authoritative and on the money. Calm, clear, logical and lucid - everything that Johnson wasn't.
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Or to translate that post, "I disagree with and don't like Boris but Margaret Beckett has similar views to mine so I'll praise her"
 
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