The brilliant NHS

[richart]

Another bug thumbs up for the NHS
Ok 3 years ago they nearly killed me after a stomach polyp removal went wrong and caused an artery to explode 12 hours later.

But the moment I entered Stoke Mandeville hospital, I felt safe, dozens of people saved me, surgeons, doctors, nurses, anaesthetists, healthcare assistants, blood donors (23 units in 12 hours)
Huge operation, touch and go, 7 days in ITU and 4 days on a ward.

Eternally thankful to the NHS for keeping me here ?

Didn't give you a better swing though.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Didn't give you a better swing though.

They're good, they can even work miracles, but that is beyond even the NHS.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Regardless of who pays or doesn't, & the level of individual contribution, the cost is not £0.00; it's a service that is paid for, just not at the point of use.

Long as it remains that way forever then all is good

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Didn't give you a better swing though.

They're good, they can even work miracles, but that is beyond even the NHS.

To be fair I didn’t ask , I couldn’t play the piano before either……..still can’t ?

Can I just add that the NHS mental health support and treatment for PTSD was very good

Mind you they might have felt a bit obliged to fix me properly ?

 

[GreiginFife]

They're good, they can even work miracles, but that is beyond even the NHS.

Maybe if you paid more ??

 

[Voyager EMH]

My mother started her nursing career in the middle of WW2. Survived the bombing of the Royal Free Hospital. Worked through the founding of the NHS. I grew up listening to conversations about what it was like before NHS and what it might be like if it had not happened.
My grandmother told me that for some years after 1948, some people in her village were still reluctant to go to the doctor. They simply could not believe that they would not be charged or be in debt as a result. That fear persisted.
Now what we need is better homes, food and living conditions for poor people so that they do not suffer life-long ill health which costs us all in the end and keeps on costing us.
NHS was a radical change. We need another such radical change which will benefit us all. I don't know exactly what shape or form this will be, but something needs to happen.
Maybe I'll get a political thread warning, but I felt I just had to say this.
Mum died in 2018 at age of 93. Did her bit for the NHS and benefitted from it in her later years.

 

[Billysboots]

Hugely positive opening post, and one which rings very true. I am delighted, Bob, to read that the NHS came up trumps in your brother’s time of need.

Until now, I have only needed emergency treatment once, and the NHS were faultless. Now, alas, I am going to need them again in the coming months, maybe years. I am confident they will pull out all the stops again.

There is a reason our NHS is the envy of the world.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Hugely positive opening post, and one which rings very true. I am delighted, Bob, to read that the NHS came up trumps in your brother’s time of need.

Until now, I have only needed emergency treatment once, and the NHS were faultless. Now, alas, I am going to need them again in the coming months, maybe years. I am confident they will pull out all the stops again.

There is a reason our NHS is the envy of the world.

Sorry to hear that, best wishes for a positive outcome.

 

[srixon 1]

Another thumbs up from me. I wouldn't be here now if it wasn't for the NHS.

 

[SocketRocket]

The good thing about the NHS is that it's free at the point of delivery.
Other than that it has some very good people working for it but it's not brilliant. Seeing a GP is now long winded, it was much better fifty years ago, waiting times for many procedures is long and people suffer, procurement is inefficient and wastes a lot of money. It's good but should be so much better.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

The good thing about the NHS is that it's free at the point of delivery.
Other than that it has some very good people working for it but it's not brilliant. Seeing a GP is now long winded, it was much better fifty years ago, waiting times for many procedures is long and people suffer, procurement is inefficient and wastes a lot of money. It's good but should be so much better.

Socket
You are doing a very good job of sucking the joy out of this thread.
It’s not about the problems that the nhs faces, we know they exist, it’s a thread about the stuff they do to save lives every day

Now please contribute Accordingly, or don’t contribute at all please

 

[bobmac]

Regardless of who pays or doesn't, & the level of individual contribution, the cost is not £0.00; it's a service that is paid for, just not at the point of use.

I will point out that the cost of treatment wasn't £0. It was more likely man thousands of pounds. Lets not confuse free at the point of use with free!

Thanks for pointing that out guys, I really had no idea.

However, the cost of being on my ignore list is free of charge which is probably just as well as you're both going to be there for a very long time, and if that makes me childish then I can live with that, as can my brother.

The last thing I need in my life right now are negative and argumentative people.

 

[chrisd]

Socket
You are doing a very good job of sucking the joy out of this thread.
It’s not about the problems that the nhs faces, we know they exist, it’s a thread about the stuff they do to save lives every day

Now please contribute Accordingly, or don’t contribute at all please

I'm a bit worried about this Phil, I've had very good service from the NHS and flippin awful too, I'm not sure that we've modded to exclude alternative views before?

 

[PhilTheFragger]

The OP started a thread about the first class treatment the nhs has given his brother, let’s not piddle on his chips,

It’s meant to be an upbeat thread about the brilliant stuff the nhs do every day.

Feel free to start another thread about the stuff that they need to do better, because we all know it isn’t perfect, just keep it non political

But this thread is about the good stuff, let’s keep it that way

 

[bobmac]

Socket
You are doing a very good job of sucking the joy out of this thread.

Got to love the ignore list

 

[Deleted member 21784]

The OP started a thread about the first class treatment the nhs has given his brother, let’s not piddle on his chips,

It’s meant to be an upbeat thread about the brilliant stuff the nhs do every day.

Feel free to start another thread about the stuff that they need to do better, because we all know it isn’t perfect, just keep it non political

But this thread is about the good stuff, let’s keep it that way

I'm only 34 , the NHS is nothing short of fantastic imo

I've had knee ligament replacement
Appendix removal
Elbow reconstruction surgery

(All those before 25)

I'm trying not to use it so much now lol

But had to for all the girls births (which they were fantastic with)

Thankfully it's free at point of use otherwise I'd definitely be skint

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Thanks for pointing that out guys, I really had no idea.

However, the cost of being on my ignore list is free of charge which is probably just as well as you're both going to be there for a very long time, and if that makes me childish then I can live with that, as can my brother.

The last thing I need in my life right now are negative and argumentative people.

Ignore away. I wasn't arguing or being negative. Its a fact. Many people do think its free. And to them it migh be. Just like so called free child care, free school meals and so on. But like the NHS they cost a fortune. That is not to say they are not worth paying for.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

I'm a bit worried about this Phil, I've had very good service from the NHS and flippin awful too, I'm not sure that we've modded to exclude alternative views before?

You and me. It started with SiLH post when he mentioned about the problems his wife sees arising. In his way, he was praising the NHS, but went on essentially to say he was worried that this brilliance might be lost.
He wasn't saying the NHS was wrong, or shouldn't be trying to be a NHS.
He wasn't arguing for privatisation or anything remotely like that.

So, someone saying yes, it's great but I'm worried about how it's headed is jumped on ( for being negative).

Are we getting that childish - that everyone must say that everything in the garden is lovely? .
And the mods telling posters off for saying .." .Yes, however.....

I believe in the NHS , vehemently. I'm not an "on the streets " person, first to tell them to bugger off home, but if any government tried to remove the NHS, then I'd be out there, marching.
But, stifling comments as has been indicated here, is worrying.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

You and me. It started with SiLH post when he mentioned about the problems his wife sees arising. In his way, he was praising the NHS, but went on essentially to say he was worried that this brilliance might be lost.
He wasn't saying the NHS was wrong, or shouldn't be trying to be a NHS.
He wasn't arguing for privatisation or anything remotely like that.

So, someone saying yes, it's great but I'm worried about how it's headed is jumped on ( for being negative).

Are we getting that childish - that everyone must say that everything in the garden is lovely? .
And the mods telling posters off for saying .." .Yes, however.....

I believe in the NHS , vehemently. I'm not an "on the streets " person, first to tell them to bugger off home, but if any government tried to remove the NHS, then I'd be out there, marching.
But, stifling comments as has been indicated here, is worrying.

You understood my post and my concerns perfectly - and I’d be marching with you on the streets. Thank you.?

 

[SocketRocket]

Socket
You are doing a very good job of sucking the joy out of this thread.
It’s not about the problems that the nhs faces, we know they exist, it’s a thread about the stuff they do to save lives every day

Now please contribute Accordingly, or don’t contribute at all please

I will make my point as I see it. This is a forum and as such open to differing opinions and free speech. I made it clear that the NHS is good with some great people working in it but it also had its faults and inefficiencies, especially with procurement.

You are entitled to disagree with my opinion but don't try and tell me I'm not entitled to it. I've not broken any forum rules, been political or insulted any individual, you seem to be doing that yourself. If you have a problem with free speech then give me an infraction for it as you won't stop me posting my honest opinion.