JustOne
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The God thread is heading this way, so here goes......
And the universe came from where?
And the universe came from where?
The big bang!!!
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G1BB0
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no one knows! its all theory & to deep for my little brain to understand.
It was actually created by timgolfy splitting the atom on a 470 yard par 3, actually it was a Pinnacle Gold extra long distance, big massive huge explosion and a few millennia later we have the universe...and the x factor, which is harder to explain.
richart
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Didn't Arthur Dent find the answer to that one ?
Foxholer
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42!
cookelad
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I believe it was somewhere over there --------->
coolhand
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The universe has always exisited. It goes through a never ending cycle of expansion and contraction.
N.B. The above does not preclude the existance of a "god".
N.B. The above does not preclude the existance of a "god".
Ikea
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I believe a lot, if not all of it, is all theory.
Thing is though. Scientific theory that is "The Big Bang" holds, for me, more truth than the bible as it's not fiction but fact, that can be proved as tested against.
When it comes to the Universe there used to be 2 chains of thought. One, and most popular being, the "Big Bang" theory, the other being Fred Hoyles' "Steady State" theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady_State_theory).
I'd personally subscribe to the "Big Bang" throry as it answers more questions about the universe than the steady state theory, the CMB, being one.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I think the universe came from within and it found itself as if the universe is all then it couldn't have come from anywhere else. Then again I assume you are talking about 'our' universe - the one we are aware of, of the many that may exist.
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Foxholer
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Which 'Universe' btw? There's a theory (unproveable?) that at the 'Big Bang' there was all sorts of other things happening - with 'false vacuums' and 'bubbles' being some of the terms used - and parallel universes being created!
None of this precludes (nor necessitates) the existence of a 'higher being'. Scientists aren't all non-believers, though it seems ironic, to me, that many were persecuted by those wielding power in 'The Church'.
JustOne
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My personal belief is that the big bang wasn't the first one, there may have been many 1000's of big bangs already, and I don't believe that all matter came into existence in the first one.... just a trickle of matter from some freakish source that added up over trillions of years. so I'm somewhere between big bang and steady state in that I believe matter is being created all the time.
The most interesting part when reading about this stuff is that the big bang puts us at 14 billion yrs yet the visible universe is 93 billion light yrs wide, ...not possible unless you invent something that breaks all known rules.
Doon frae Troon
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Just don't go to the edge of the Universe, you may fall off.
Andy808
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You need to do some more reading on the big bang theory. Although it is believed that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light at this time in the universes history it has been theorised that in the split second after the big bang, when matter was in a purely atomic state, the universe expanded infinately fast creating the vast area that the universe now covers. It was only after this vast expansion that the laws of physics that we have now came into existance. It's similar to those who ask where the center of the universe is. As the universe is expanding everything is moving away from everthing, apart form galaxies within a local group which are being affected by the gravitational pull of other galaxies, creating the illusion that anywhere in the universe is the center but it's probably not. The expansion of the universe is one of the major nails in the coffin of steady state and creation as neither account for the increasing speed of expansion of the universe that gravity is losing it's grip on.
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I can't get my brain round this whole infinity thing. You could travel forever and ever and ever and ever. And you're nowhere near the end!!
How does that work then? :mmm:
How does that work then? :mmm:
Andy808
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It is the hardest part of astrophysics to get your head around. We live in enclosed houses, in a street, in a town, in a county, in a country on a planet enclosed by an atmosphere that we can not live out side of. Our whole existance is enclosed in some way so infinate space is virtualy impossible to comprehend.
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Yeah tell me about it!
And the other thing, looking up at stars in the sky.......but hang on, half of them aren't there anymore.
BUT I CAN SEE THEM!!!! :rofl:
JustOne
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I've read a bit, maybe not to the same level as an astro physicist, ...but more than my mum!
I understand the theoretical concept that space can expand faster than the speed of light. Whether or not that space would include matter along with it remains to be seen, however is it not bizarre to say the universe is that wide if we can't see anything in it? (furthest ever visible object is 13.7Bn)
Foxholer
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Indeed. We are limited by our own imaginations - and egos, interspersed with instances of brilliant realisations. And when the status quo is challenged, it has a habit of oppressing those that challenge it, as if the very foundations of their faith is being challenged.
