Taylormade M1 - WOW

As a three handicapper surely you can also appreciate the need for a very consistent strike pattern for any gains to be truly worth the investment,

My point is sldr, g30, 915, jpx850..... The club is irrelevant if your covering every square inch of the face with your strike.

I'm currently gaming a 913d3, I can hit this equally as good or equally as bad as my 2012 amp, when I look at the places I'm playing from on the course as a second shot there can't be much more than 2/3 metres between the two clubs, now if we take the rrp of the 913 against my used amp that I had in the bag, was the upgrade worth the investment? Was it balls. The fact is I'd got bored of the amp and fancied the 913.

I think truth be told this is the reason most buy new drivers, not because they are better or worse than their old ones, but simply because the feel it's either a quick fix and easier than spending the hours on drills etc to fix what ever faults are in their swing or because their old driver looks tiered and they fancy something different.

I know even at 9hc a £400 bat will make next to no difference in my scores. on absolutely crunched shots I may see 5 yards difference, but if I look at how often in a round I would see that gain, I hazard a guess to say 2/3 at most. I would see more gain from improving my technique which could benefit every shot from wedge to driver instead of buying a wonder stick at £400 and then wondering why it doesn't go as far as they say on TV,

Theses gains are only based on robot swings, and unless you have the consisten strike pattern I doubt many will see any gains,

Can't really disagree with any of that.
I keep contemplating purchasing a G25 Driver,will I hit it any better than my G10? Probably not.
 
A few rhetorical questions;

  1. If your swing speed stays the same, how will the ball go further?
  2. Better launch angle?
  3. Lower spin rate?
  4. Better dispersion?

I genuinely find it hard to believe that a piece of metal hitting the ball at pretty much the same speed as your previous bit of metal will knock the ball out a significant distance further. Admittedly, improving launch angle and spin rate will make a difference but will it make 20yds difference.

Worryingly, we were in the pro shop today and HID said get one. She's planted the seed, and its itching.
 
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My old driver was good to me, and I'd be lying if the fascination of having a new club didn't play a large part in the buying decision - of course it did!

My spin prior was around 2500, with a 17 degree launch angle. High, but a great flight still.

The M1 was down to about 15 launch and around 2000 spin. Hence the increased length.

Absolutely agree about the consistency of strike between higher and Lower handicappers, but my point was that a pro/lower handicapper is more likely to be able to replicate the gains they saw when being fitted on the course - largely because when being fitted, a fitter will often ignore, that horrendous slice or one off hook you hit. Scewing the results.

With regards to a longer hitter seeing more benefit, I suppose it's all relative - a 5% gain for me would be more than a 5% gain for a shorter hitter.

It's also worth noting that in previous TM drivers I would have had to have paid in excess of £450 for an appropriate club as the standard shafts were no good at all for my swing speed. So if anything I'm one of the few who actually would have benefitted from their new pricing stucture.
 
A few rhetorical questions;

  1. If your swing speed stays the same, how will the ball go further?
  2. Better launch angle?
  3. Lower spin rate?
  4. Better dispersion?

I genuinely find it hard to believe that a piece of metal hitting the ball at pretty much the same speed as your previous bit of metal will knock the ball out a significant distance further. Admittedly, improving launch angle and spin rate will make a difference but will it make 20yds difference.

Worryingly, we were in the pro shop today and HID said get one. She's planted the seed, and its itching.

My thoughts are the same. My carry distance with my ping anser was 230 yet 261 with my sldr. Why??? My anser spun at 4100 and my sldr 430 spun at 1900. The spin was the key for me not the metal hitting the ball
 
My thoughts are the same. My carry distance with my ping anser was 230 yet 261 with my sldr. Why??? My anser spun at 4100 and my sldr 430 spun at 1900. The spin was the key for me not the metal hitting the ball

But a lesson improving technique and impact position could have made just as much of a change without the £300 club

I'm not saying clubs tech does not move on, but I'd be leaning towards a big gap between changes. R11-r11s, g25-g30, 910-913, there isn't much between them. Now if for example you stepped from g20-g30, 910-915, r1-m1, the gap between models could be more noticeable
 
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But a lesson improving technique and impact position could have made just as much of a change without the £300 club

I'm not saying clubs tech does not move on, but I'd be leaning towards a big gap between changes. R11-r11s, g25-g30, 910-913, there isn't much between them. Now if for example you stepped from g20-g30, 910-915, r1-m1, the gap between models could be more noticeable

I tried the lesson before the purchase. I hit my driver 1 degree on the up. it was scratching head time when they saw my spin rate. Blimey the g30 goes up my nose
 
I totally agree with this I'm a hi handicapper and I think its too easy for us to seduced by the latest and greatest, coupled with a range session of just hitting drives, I know I would be so much better if I could hit three drives off the Tee before I put a ball in play!

In my case I bought a G30 because I liked the feel and looks of it best, and and I hit it as good as any of the other drivers I tried at the time
 
OK I'm back and yes it's a a real doozy. Got 7 more yards on average on the Ping G25 and the dispersion is pretty similar. Spin rates a little better although not getting the full numbers until tomorrow. Much higher flight than my Ping so ideal for the winter. However, I still prefer the feeling the Titleist gave me earlier in the year and that gave me 11 more yards on the day.

If I'm going to change and with my FIR at 42% (down from 44%) last season I'm afraid the D2 still starts as my favourite choice. However this is the best TM driver for a long time and worth a look although try not to look at the price tag if you don't already know the price and are easily shocked
 
OK I'm back and yes it's a a real doozy. Got 7 more yards on average on the Ping G25 and the dispersion is pretty similar. Spin rates a little better although not getting the full numbers until tomorrow. Much higher flight than my Ping so ideal for the winter. However, I still prefer the feeling the Titleist gave me earlier in the year and that gave me 11 more yards on the day.

If I'm going to change and with my FIR at 42% (down from 44%) last season I'm afraid the D2 still starts as my favourite choice. However this is the best TM driver for a long time and worth a look although try not to look at the price tag if you don't already know the price and are easily shocked

Which TM driver was better?
 
OK I'm back and yes it's a a real doozy. Got 7 more yards on average on the Ping G25 and the dispersion is pretty similar. Spin rates a little better although not getting the full numbers until tomorrow. Much higher flight than my Ping so ideal for the winter. However, I still prefer the feeling the Titleist gave me earlier in the year and that gave me 11 more yards on the day.

If I'm going to change and with my FIR at 42% (down from 44%) last season I'm afraid the D2 still starts as my favourite choice. However this is the best TM driver for a long time and worth a look although try not to look at the price tag if you don't already know the price and are easily shocked

So your saying its outstanding?or unique?

How many shots for your "average 7 yards extra?
Does that mean you hit some a lot further than your driver.
 
So your saying its outstanding?or unique?

How many shots for your "average 7 yards extra?
Does that mean you hit some a lot further than your driver.

Hit shots with the http://www.americangolf.co.uk/golf-clubs/drivers/taylormade-m1-fujikulonger

No idea how many I hit in total as the monitor was playing up intermittantly and not recording all the shots. Several were 15 or so yards longer with not feeling of really going after it. 10.5 degrees of loft. Definitely one to think about but the price tag is the biggest hurdle. Didn't find the looks off putting at all
 
I'll stick with my Titleist 909 D2, at £30 courtesy of Alex, that's less than 10% of the M1 price.

Nothing beats the sound of a Titleist driver and let's be honest, that's all we're really interested in yes?
 
I'll stick with my Titleist 909 D2, at £30 courtesy of Alex, that's less than 10% of the M1 price.

Nothing beats the sound of a Titleist driver and let's be honest, that's all we're really interested in yes?
Never liked Titleist drivers all the way back to the 975D. Just don't suit my eye.
 
I'll stick with my Titleist 909 D2, at £30 courtesy of Alex, that's less than 10% of the M1 price.

Nothing beats the sound of a Titleist driver and let's be honest, that's all we're really interested in yes?

I wonder how many shots a M1 would knock off your rounds?
 
OK I'm back and yes it's a a real doozy. Got 7 more yards on average on the Ping G25 and the dispersion is pretty similar. Spin rates a little better although not getting the full numbers until tomorrow. Much higher flight than my Ping so ideal for the winter. However, I still prefer the feeling the Titleist gave me earlier in the year and that gave me 11 more yards on the day.

If I'm going to change and with my FIR at 42% (down from 44%) last season I'm afraid the D2 still starts as my favourite choice. However this is the best TM driver for a long time and worth a look although try not to look at the price tag if you don't already know the price and are easily shocked

Was it warmer when you hit the 915?
 
If an existing /driver has been properly fitted, then I can't see the point of buying a new one for more than about every 3-4 years - unless something spectacular comes out! Even 10 yards (and it would have to be carry!) wouldn't persuade me!

While I agree that the SLDR Loft Up marketing ploy was a bit of a gimmick/cop-out, I don't see it as something that would put me off TM kit - and, in fact, their short product cycle doesn't either. But I certainly wouldn't want to stay at the 'bleeding' edge of their range, nor would I want to be a TM retailer without some sort of returns/discounting deal!

However, by all means, continue to try the latest models just tpo see if that magic one happens to have arrived!

I believe I've found my optimum setup for the next 3-4 years (costing £55 from memory!), but will still dabble with different shafts/heads in the meantime!
 
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