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Taylormade : Jetspeed

HawkeyeMS said:
Well quite which begs the question does it really make much difference?

Of further interest may be that in 2012 he was 28th in Driving Accuracy and 80th in Driving Distance. In 2013 he was 52nd in Accuracy and 27th in Distance. He's got longer by 6yds on average but misses more fairways. Of course, that could have nothing to do with the clubs.
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And it could be more than stats for him and more about comfort and confidence in the club. He won't change just for the sake of it.
 
ger147 said:
But I also have to mention the name. As a grown man in my 40's, I'm not sure I could bring myself to buy a golf club with the name Jetspeed. It's bad enough shaving with a Fusion razor but at least I get to do that in the privacy of my own bathroom and my wife actually does the buying, but pulling out my new driver on the 1st tee and my mate says "new driver Gerry? What is it?", and I have to reply "a TM Jetspeed". I think not!!! :D
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Perhaps you are worrying too much about a name? Just say it's the latest TM, make a joke about it being out of date in 3 weeks time and then wipe the smile off your mates face by striping one down the middle. Surely no one should care what a golf club is called as long as it works?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
And it could be more than stats for him and more about comfort and confidence in the club. He won't change just for the sake of it.
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Well this is what got me wondering whether he was in someway contracted to use the new clubs? It would seem odd, but then it seems odd that he would voluntarily choose to change so often, he surely can't just prefer every new model that comes out?
 
HawkeyeMS said:
Well this is what got me wondering whether he was in someway contracted to use the new clubs? It would seem odd, but then it seems odd that he would voluntarily choose to change so often, he surely can't just prefer every new model that comes out?
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Why not ?

Why can't he prefer each new model

It's the R11 that's the interesting one ? Why did he go back to a two year old model and not to the R11S. Also where did you get your info from.

It appeared he used the R11 is March 2012
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
Why not ?

Why can't he prefer each new model

It's the R11 that's the interesting one ? Why did he go back to a two year old model and not to the R11S. Also where did you get your info from.

It appeared he used the R11 is March 2012
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I got the information from various websites that have done "what's in the bag" features on him at various points, which could be wrong. His own website says he uses the RBZ so I am guessing that's out of date :D
 
Imurg said:
No
But at least the G25 replaced a range that was 18 months old and the S55 a club that was nearly 3 years old....
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^ What the man with no tan said :D

It's the same with most OEM's.

Titleist 712 > 714
Mizuno 53 > 54 63 > 64
Ping S56 > S55

All done over 2 plus years. Not the 2+ weeks Taylormade seem to send out new, faster, longer kit.

That's what gripes people. Not so much the frequent releases of 'improved' equipment, but the stupid claims made by TM about getting you "x yards longer.
 
I would suspect the high profile team
TM ( Justin dustin Sergio and Jason day) are if not under contract under quite a bit of pressure to game the latest clubs at launch. But when non contracted pros can't get TM gear quick enough they must be doing something right that's without considering the likes of Luke Donald and Phil Mickelson having recently had/having TM gear in there bags.
 
Gareth said:
^ What the man with no tan said :D

It's the same with most OEM's.

Titleist 712 > 714
Mizuno 53 > 54 63 > 64
Ping S56 > S55

All done over 2 plus years. Not the 2+ weeks Taylormade seem to send out new, faster, longer kit.

That's what gripes people. Not so much the frequent releases of 'improved' equipment, but the stupid claims made by TM about getting you "x yards longer.
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That's called marketing and it's marketing that appears to be very successful

Are TM the only company to claim "extra yards"
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Why not ?

Why can't he prefer each new model
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Perhaps he does.

The difference his he know the TM marketing guff is BS.

He probably also understands that it's the numpty swinging the club that has more influence over anything designed on a computer in a lab will ever have when it comes to flight and direction.

Couple that to the fact he will have use of TM's vast fitting facilities and have it made and set exactly to his requirement.

So yes, perhaps he does prefer the latest kit, maybe out of personal cuirocity or through contract, who knows. The difference being he knows it's, pretty much the same driver he hit the week before. Just with different graphics and, maybe a different shaft.
 
The jetspeed is to the SLDR as the RBZs2 was to the R1.
And the RBZ was to the R11.
And the Burner was to the r9.

They are consistent, at least. They are just consistently faster than SOME other manufacturers at turning over kit.
Callaway have also had shedloads of clubs out in the last year too, and have announced an imminent competitor to the SLDR (when Phil started hitting the SLDR).

I'm not interested in their kit tbh, but for those that are, have at it.

Personally I think jetspeed is a less silly name than rocketballz.

Haven't they got a ball called superdeep? It's one step away from ballzdeep, I really hope they bring out a ball called that. You would probably need an extra stiff shaft to get the best out of it.

Badum tish. I'm here all week, tip your waitress.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
That's called marketing and it's marketing that appears to be very successful

Are TM the only company to claim "extra yards"
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Which is exactly my point!

Titlest, Mizuno, Ping et' al' release there kit on a rolling 2 year cycle, so yes you would expect to see some small increase in distance through improved tech.

The difference with TM is they have released 4 drivers in the space of one year give or take, each time the new model is longer than the one being superceeded.

I'm sorry, but technology, especially in drivers, doesn't move that fast and is pretty much at it's limit now.
 
Gareth said:
Perhaps he does.

The difference his he know the TM marketing guff is BS.

He probably also understands that it's the numpty swinging the club that has more influence over anything designed on a computer in a lab will ever have when it comes to flight and direction.

Couple that to the fact he will have use of TM's vast fitting facilities and have it made and set exactly to his requirement.

So yes, perhaps he does prefer the latest kit, maybe out of personal cuirocity or through contract, who knows. The difference being he knows it's, pretty much the same driver he hit the week before. Just with different graphics and, maybe a different shaft.
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It is really the same driver ?

Is the SLDR the same as the R1 ?

Spoken to plenty who would differ and say they are very different drivers - the same as the G25 is different from the Anser.

You seem very put out by marketing from TM - you call it BS so I would expect you have challenged it and proven it to be BS
 
Gareth said:
Perhaps he does.

The difference his he know the TM marketing guff is BS.

He probably also understands that it's the numpty swinging the club that has more influence over anything designed on a computer in a lab will ever have when it comes to flight and direction.

Couple that to the fact he will have use of TM's vast fitting facilities and have it made and set exactly to his requirement.

So yes, perhaps he does prefer the latest kit, maybe out of personal cuirocity or through contract, who knows. The difference being he knows it's, pretty much the same driver he hit the week before. Just with different graphics and, maybe a different shaft.
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This is what I was wondering, aside from the looks, how different are they really? They can't be that different under the bonnet as it were.
 
HawkeyeMS said:
Fair enough, could have got the date wrong on the R11. It still seems like a high turnover to me though but maybe that's what he wants? Who knows
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I have had two drivers this year and when I get my new shaft it's prob three
 
Gareth said:
Which is exactly my point!

Titlest, Mizuno, Ping et' al' release there kit on a rolling 2 year cycle, so yes you would expect to see some small increase in distance through improved tech.

The difference with TM is they have released 4 drivers in the space of one year give or take, each time the new model is longer than the one being superceeded.

I'm sorry, but technology, especially in drivers, doesn't move that fast and is pretty much at it's limit now.
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Well the G series is on a yearly cycle now and understand the Titleist Drivers will be as well

The R1 wasn't marketed as "longer" than the rest it's was having one driver to fit all with it's adjustability.

Do you work in the driver design and build ?

Maybe TM are far more advanced than anyone else - the Pro's seem to agree as they are the number one driver on tour with even other manufacturer staff players choosing their driver over others

So what is it exactly they are doing that upsets you and other so much yet the pros seem to love
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Well the G series is on a yearly cycle now and understand the Titleist Drivers will be as well

The R1 wasn't marketed as "longer" than the rest it's was having one driver to fit all with it's adjustability.

Do you work in the driver design and build ?

Maybe TM are far more advanced than anyone else - the Pro's seem to agree as they are the number one driver on tour with even other manufacturer staff players choosing their driver over others

So what is it exactly they are doing that upsets you and other so much yet the pros seem to love
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They aren't doing anything to upset me :mad:



Are you a rep for Taylormade or perhaps and accredited fitter?

Edit: Actually, I've just noticed you have a bag full of TM. Now I see why you're so defensive.
 
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