Sorry seems to be the hardest word...

I think it's more a polite admittance of a bad shot rather than actually apologizing for the shot you played.

Certainly safer than walking off with a smile on your face when your partner has 14 metal weapons in his bag!
 
He was being selfish and didn't play for the team in that particular case, he also made the wrong choice tactically as the high percentage play was to square it to his mate for a tap in. I'd apologise to the other player if it was me, I'd also feel a right tw@t after seeing it hit the side netting :rolleyes:

Settle down buddy no need to rub salt into a reopened wound ;) you'll be squeezing on some lemon juice next :)
 
I'm playing foursomes The game is tight and I'm teeing off. I take driver but carve my ball out of bounds... why am I not supposed to apologise...:confused:

because you should neither be dwelling in the past, nor dragging your partner into recognition of poor poor performance. It's a well established psycological issue - very simple. the obvious example being a certain Golden Bear who didn't 3 putt once in his entire career! it simply never happened in his mind :)

of course you are 'sorry', unlike the other examples you give where not everyone would actual be sorry in the first, or care enough to be sorry in the second, it's a straight forward presumption that you would be sorry so there's no point in saying it, and some good reasons not to - you should be looking forwards to help your partner in the next shot rather than dragging him backwards.

as a wise man has already posted to the thread - the bar aftwards is the place for apologies :thup:
 
He was being selfish and didn't play for the team in that particular case, he also made the wrong choice tactically as the high percentage play was to square it to his mate for a tap in. I'd apologise to the other player if it was me, I'd also feel a right tw@t after seeing it hit the side netting :rolleyes:

It just doesn't happen that players at any decent level either give or expect an apology.

You believe in each other and the assumption must be that any decision you make is in the best interests of the team.

Sometimes it may be the wrong decision but so what, an instinctive game requires instinctive decision making. You win and lose as a team as in foursomes.
 
because you should neither be dwelling in the past, nor dragging your partner into recognition of poor poor performance. It's a well established psycological issue - very simple. the obvious example being a certain Golden Bear who didn't 3 putt once in his entire career! it simply never happened in his mind :)

of course you are 'sorry', unlike the other examples you give where not everyone would actual be sorry in the first, or care enough to be sorry in the second, it's a straight forward presumption that you would be sorry so there's no point in saying it, and some good reasons not to - you should be looking forwards to help your partner in the next shot rather than dragging him backwards.

as a wise man has already posted to the thread - the bar aftwards is the place for apologies :thup:

I am glad that you have explained - as I fear any such explanation from me might not be taken that seriously...

Foursomes reqiures both playes to remain positive and involved - saying sorry will get you down =- and gfoursomes is very hard to get into if you start bad - you need as much positivity as possible. I'll add that if my partner isn't playing that well I tend not to openly celebrate my good shots - unless absolutely brilliant (rare). And for the same reason. If my PP sees me celebrate when he is playing poorly that can make him feel - and hence play - worse. It doesn't really matter how great I play as I can't win by myself - I have to keep my PP on board and keep us as a team. To my PP - me celebrating a good shot merely highlights the fact that he isn't playing well. We can celebrate great shots art the end of the round =- once we've won.

I don't expect this 'not openly celebrating during the match' thing to make much sense to many forumers - but there you go :)
 
Put another way

If your partner says sorry you are effectively bound to say "don't worry mate", when you really want to say "YOU BLITHERING IDIOT HOW COULD YOU PUT THAT IN THE WORST BLINKING GORSE BUSH ON THE FLAMING COURSE WHEN YOU ONLY HAD A BLOOMING 9 IRON IN YOUR HAND, AFTER I SPLIT THE FAIRWAY WITH THE DRIVE OF MY FLIPPING LIFE".

This internal conflict can only hurt your game.

Better if all parties just maintain a dignified silence.

You know he's sorry, he knows you're seething. No need for words.
 
"YOU BLITHERING IDIOT HOW COULD YOU PUT THAT IN THE WORST BLINKING GORSE BUSH ON THE FLAMING COURSE WHEN YOU ONLY HAD A BLOOMING 9 IRON IN YOUR HAND, AFTER I SPLIT THE FAIRWAY WITH THE DRIVE OF MY FLIPPING LIFE".

This internal conflict can only hurt your game.

Well said.
An old partner used to really let go if you hit a poor shot and expected the same for himself.
Interestingly it would sometimes unsettle our opponents.
We got on well and were quite successful.
 
Thank you all for your comments. I've got our first team trial on Sunday so useful perspectives to take in. Mashie inspired piece of writing :)

And beezerk if ever by some miracle I'm able to don my shooting boots again I'll keep my eyes peeled for you by the penalty spot ;)
 
The only time I say sorry on the course (I think) is when I'm apologising to another group for hitting my ball in their direction, as someone said earlier if your going to apologise for every shot that doesn't go exactly to plan there's not going to be much room for conversation!
 
Thank you all for your comments. I've got our first team trial on Sunday so useful perspectives to take in. Mashie inspired piece of writing :)

And beezerk if ever by some miracle I'm able to don my shooting boots again I'll keep my eyes peeled for you by the penalty spot ;)

Foursomes is tough - it's best that a pair just keeps 'level' emotions throughout. Helps you both focus and engender togetherness as a pair. Remaining unperturbed can also disconcert your opponents as you as a team seem to be unruffled by mistakes and calmly accept really good shots as if they are the norm and they should expect more to come. Also as soon as I see one member of a foursomes pairing wavering and getting down, I redouble my efforts with my playing partner to really turn the screw by winning the hole or indeed making that player putt when I might otherwise concede :)
 
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