Sir Vince Cable

Tempted to say "who cares"?
He leads a virtually irrelevant party that lost most of their credibility when they got into bed with Cameron.
 
Tempted to say "who cares"?
He leads a virtually irrelevant party that lost most of their credibility when they got into bed with Cameron.

Agree with this. The Lib Dems are in very poor state.

He must be similar to Corbyn, currently 68, so the argument is the same.
 
Yet Jezza appears to have the ear of the yoof...
Whereas Vince never will...

But whats the difference with JC offering to cancel higher education fees and the Tories promising to cut your tax by a couple of pence? They all offer things they cannot deliver, but we never seem to learn.
 
But whats the difference with JC offering to cancel higher education fees and the Tories promising to cut your tax by a couple of pence? They all offer things they cannot deliver, but we never seem to learn.

Actually I'd argue both can be delivered. It is just the compromises that people/society would have to make in other areas to make them happen. For example Vince Cable mentioned putting up taxes today on TV, so by doing that I imagine they could do implement other policies with the revenue they raise. Whether people agree with rising taxes to do that is another matter, but they could do/deliver it.
 
Actually I'd argue both can be delivered. It is just the compromises that people/society would have to make in other areas to make them happen. For example Vince Cable mentioned putting up taxes today on TV, so by doing that I imagine they could do implement other policies with the revenue they raise. Whether people agree with rising taxes to do that is another matter, but they could do/deliver it.

You say that both can be done. How do you spend more and reduce taxes? Don't get me wrong, I'd argue that we could do far more but the money has to come from somewhere, and the Treasury gets its money from us and by borrowing. Who pays for the borrowing? Us and future generations.

For me, the only way to break the current circle is by significantly increasing income tax. Ireland have shown that by significantly reducing Corporation Tax you can turn around a drastically failing economy, and they also increased income tax. They increased it across the board, not just for the top 10% of earners. It wasn't taken well at all but it has worked.
 
You say that both can be done. How do you spend more and reduce taxes? Don't get me wrong, I'd argue that we could do far more but the money has to come from somewhere, and the Treasury gets its money from us and by borrowing. Who pays for the borrowing? Us and future generations.

For me, the only way to break the current circle is by significantly increasing income tax. Ireland have shown that by significantly reducing Corporation Tax you can turn around a drastically failing economy, and they also increased income tax. They increased it across the board, not just for the top 10% of earners. It wasn't taken well at all but it has worked.

I didn't mean both at the same time...;)
 
And all going well with Trump - you'd never guess he was 71. Though maybe Melania takes a lot out of him and I guess he has to watch his heart on Melania occasions,
 
Only because he's making them promises to try and get elected, for which those promises are nothing but lip service with no real possibility of them ever becoming reality.

But whats the difference with JC offering to cancel higher education fees and the Tories promising to cut your tax by a couple of pence? They all offer things they cannot deliver, but we never seem to learn.

Like the guy from Bullseye said "Iiiiiiin One".


So, I am not wrong in saying Jezza has the ear of the yoof...

Vince [LibDems] once had it but when push came to a shove they lost it...
 
So, I am not wrong in saying Jezza has the ear of the yoof...

Vince [LibDems] once had it but when push came to a shove they lost it...

Wouldnt say he has the "ear of the yoof", hes just saying what they want to hear right now. Like most people, they vote for what will effect them right now, not what will effect everyone now and in the medium term.
 
There's a nice half? ;)

Hell yes....some of my best friends are Tories;).
My newly elected MP is a thoroughly decent chap.

The party has been split in two from the days of Ted Heath.

Mayhem begging for Jezza's support now.
I wonder what all those Tories who bought £3 Labour votes to support him think of it now.:whoo:
 
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