Should the Masters be a Major

[TheJezster]

Sorry but think each sport should be treated in its own way - don't think it's comparable across different sports especially when the make up is so different

As I said I believe the fields would balance themselves out and events would find their standing

But don't many people use the same sports when talking about Golf 'attire'??? You cant have it both ways, to suit your argument.

And in answer to your other point, so Spieth won a tournament within 3-4 months of getting his card? How is that similar to Pepperill etc, they are not on the level of Spieth, who was clearly something special from the off.

Not saying they might not become great players, but if and when they do, they will qualify for the Masters. Simple ;-)

I get that you have your view, and no opinions are incorrect, but you have a minority view and talking at people over and over isn't going to get them to change their mind.

The Masters is a major, possibly THE major, so if we were to lose one it sure as hell wouldn't be this one.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Agree 100%....and currently 86% of forum members think it should be a major and I suspect the vast majority of those would be quite happy with the way it is and the way it's always been. We can argue all day about "fairness", "regional qualifiers", "past winners", "contenders" etc.......but I'm off to flog my dead horse.

I believe it's been a very good debate with lots of strong opinions been put across in a pleasant and mature way - it's a debate that has gone on for years and regardless of it makes a difference ( how many debates on here actually do make a difference ) it certainly shouldn't be stopped based on "it won't make a difference l"

 

[GB72]

Out of interest, who actually 'runs' The Masters. Is it classed as a PGA Tour event or is it purely run by the Augusta National committee. I only ask because when Tiger was up for disqualification, I am sure that the final decision to keep him in was made by the Augusta committee and not the PGA.

 

[user2010]

So can we expect the same thread trotted out this time next year, a la DelC?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Out of interest, who actually 'runs' The Masters. Is it classed as a PGA Tour event or is it purely run by the Augusta National committee. I only ask because when Tiger was up for disqualification, I am sure that the final decision to keep him in was made by the Augusta committee and not the PGA.

It's run by the Masters ( Augusta Committee )!

 

[BTatHome]

Sorry but the idea that the tours will even out is just impossible to imagine in the real world. If there are three events around the world with Arnold hosting in the US, the Sicilian Open in Europe and the South Eastern Regional Masters in Kuala Lumpa, then it's fanciful to think the ranking points should be equal, as the overwhelming majority of quality players will be playing in the US. There is zero value in the ranking points being equal across the three events, and if anything it would devalue the rankings themselves .... which in turn would probably lead to even more invitational tournaments. Anybody travelling across the globe to play against a vastly weakened field would be ridiculed by everyone!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Sorry but the idea that the tours will even out is just impossible to imagine in the real world. If there are three events around the world with Arnold hosting in the US, the Sicilian Open in Europe and the South Eastern Regional Masters in Kuala Lumpa, then it's fanciful to think the ranking points should be equal, as the overwhelming majority of quality players will be playing in the US. There is zero value in the ranking points being equal across the three events, and if anything it would devalue the rankings themselves .... which in turn would probably lead to even more invitational tournaments. Anybody travelling across the globe to play against a vastly weakened field would be ridiculed by everyone!

I think what could happen is certain events could have equal standing and the schedule be sorted so that when events are held its rare that three comps on at the same time all hold the same ranking points

So for example when the PGA at Wentworth is on that's the premier event that week and holds the most points

Same when the Players is on or the Australian Open etc

Each comp is weighted is comparable to its level - with each tour having a number of top rated events. Get the game more global

Or even have a World Tour

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think what could happen is certain events could have equal standing and the schedule be sorted so that when events are held its rare that three comps on at the same time all hold the same ranking points

So for example when the PGA at Wentworth is on that's the premier event that week and holds the most points

Same when the Players is on or the Australian Open etc

Each comp is weighted is comparable to its level - with each tour having a number of top rated events. Get the game more global

Or even have a World Tour

Utopian dreaming that isn't ever going to work until there's some form of world tour and worldwide governing body (chances of me getting to Cat 1 are higher). It simply is what it is and will always be geared to getting the best players and the sponsors cash week in week out and the bottom line as others keep pointing out is that is invariably always going to be in the US with the exception of events like the PGA at Wentworth, one or two European tour events around the Open where players will come across and play a few events in Europe. While the WGC and three majors are in the US, players will always opt to play that tour unless they can break into the top fify another way to receive their invites to WGC, Masters, etc.

 

[Ethan]

Sorry but the idea that the tours will even out is just impossible to imagine in the real world. If there are three events around the world with Arnold hosting in the US, the Sicilian Open in Europe and the South Eastern Regional Masters in Kuala Lumpa, then it's fanciful to think the ranking points should be equal, as the overwhelming majority of quality players will be playing in the US. There is zero value in the ranking points being equal across the three events, and if anything it would devalue the rankings themselves .... which in turn would probably lead to even more invitational tournaments. Anybody travelling across the globe to play against a vastly weakened field would be ridiculed by everyone!

Nobody said the ranking points should be equal each week. But if Masters places were awarded to winners of any event with a first place award of more than 50 points, say, that would being in 3 or 4 European Tour events and kick out a few of the rubbish PGA Tour events.

 

[Ethan]

Utopian dreaming that isn't ever going to work until there's some form of world tour and worldwide governing body (chances of me getting to Cat 1 are higher). It simply is what it is and will always be geared to getting the best players and the sponsors cash week in week out and the bottom line as others keep pointing out is that is invariably always going to be in the US with the exception of events like the PGA at Wentworth, one or two European tour events around the Open where players will come across and play a few events in Europe. While the WGC and three majors are in the US, players will always opt to play that tour unless they can break into the top fify another way to receive their invites to WGC, Masters, etc.

More chance of a World Tour than Cat 1, Homer, old chap. Now, Cat 3 .......

 

[HomerJSimpson]

More chance of a World Tour than Cat 1, Homer, old chap. Now, Cat 3 .......

Indeed but struggling with a few health issues of late and to be honest just happy to be out and playing at the moment.

 

[pokerjoke]

Indeed but struggling with a few health issues of late and to be honest just happy to be out and playing at the moment.

You keep mentioning these health issues I hope they are not to serious,can you digress or not.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

You keep mentioning these health issues I hope they are not to serious,can you digress or not.

Prefer not to. Some on here are aware. Annoying that it's impinging on golf and practice and having a more detrimental effect than my usual mediocrity. A little worrying until I get full prognosis and plan of action next week

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I have always enjoyed looking forward to The Master more than any other bar The Open and the Ryder Cup, probably because it is on in the evening so can be watched after work but didn't go on much after midnight and was on the BBC. The course is always visually stunning too.
Not sure whether it ought o be a major though due to the selectiveness on the event.
Compulsive viewing though.

I love watching the Masters - and my Mrs will often watch with me - especially final round - as she got caught up with me watching the 'Sandy' Masters. We met on Feb 14th 1988 and for some reason she was still with me and up late with me watching the masters two months later. My we were bouncing about the sofa after Sandy hit his shot to the 18th Fun memories.

 

[Foxholer]

http://www.golfwrx.com/366440/the-20-players-who-can-actually-win-the-masters/

 

[FairwayDodger]

Should the same happen in football? Should each and every European country get 1 entry for the Champions League?

YES!!! Different thread though....

 

[pokerjoke]

Prefer not to. Some on here are aware. Annoying that it's impinging on golf and practice and having a more detrimental effect than my usual mediocrity. A little worrying until I get full prognosis and plan of action next week

Hope it goes well for you:thup:

 

[BubbaP]

I love watching the Masters - and my Mrs will often watch with me - especially final round - as she got caught up with me watching the 'Sandy' Masters. We met on Feb 14th 1988 and for some reason she was still with me and up late with me watching the masters two months later. My we were bouncing about the sofa after Sandy hit his shot to the 18th Fun memories.

Really like to watch it also, and that one is a formative golf memory for me as well.
When pondering this thread/poll I did ask myself would I be so up for watching if it was in August though - how much of it is the 'start of the season' factor?

Also, most regular tournaments are on same course every year. Whereas the other majors rotate. Has long been said that not rotating rules out a group of players every year before they tee up.

 

[upsidedown]

Yes it should be and for me is the best of all of them.

You know the course, well the back nine so well for all those years of viewing , you know where the flags will be come Sunday, you know how the putts break , the wind swirls round Amen Corner, even down to the same theme music. It's like slipping on your favourite pair of slippers
The new season is upon us

 

[USER1999]

Yes it should be and for me is the best of all of them.

You know the course, well the back nine so well for all those years of viewing , you know where the flags will be come Sunday, you know how the putts break , the wind swirls round Amen Corner, even down to the same theme music. It's like slipping on your favourite pair of slippers
The new season is upon us

Why don't we know the front nine that well though? Oh, I remember, they wouldn't let the tv show it for years and years, and it's not as pretty, or memorable. Jumped up idiots in Blazers running major comps, and dictating to the public what they can and cannot watch.

It sends out such a good message about the inclusiveness of golf as a sport.