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Also where the better players are.
19 of the last 20 Majors have been won by PGA Tour players, the one exception being Darren Clarke in 2011.
Also where the better players are.
19 of the last 20 Majors have been won by PGA Tour players, the one exception being Darren Clarke in 2011.
BTatHome
Tour Winner
I know it's an invitation, but the criteria are there to be seen by everyone, so has anyone not actually been invited that has fulfilled the criteria?
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And ? I know the PGA is stronger - you are stating things that aren't being disagreed with.
Slab
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Isn't that becasue the USPGA is strongest in terms of quality of competition/competitors
(and it's the same reason the CL spots are weighted to England/Spain etc while Moldova, Albania etc don't benefit from anything as romantic as regional qualifying)
There's plenty routes into playing the Masters & it might be fairer to players if there were a few more spots, but is it fairer to the event?
People would have got bored of Eddie the eagle types if it happened every time
TheJezster
Tour Rookie
You have to keep them separate, they are different tournaments with different usp's. As was said earlier this isn't an 'open' so it's not for just anyone to qualify. It's exclusive. You know you've made it when you play at the masters. That shouldn't ever change, it's part of its history and charm. You don't want 4 majors all the same, that would be boring. They need to be different and this is. It's the best golfing event in the calendar bar the ryder cup! It absolutely is and should remain a major. Hell it's probably the one most want to win, possibly with the exception of an open at St. Andrews
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It's stronger because there is more money available so the top Pro's play for the money and they bring the ranking points with them
IMO the ranking points system should be weighted per event regardless of the players playing
Example - British Masters should be ranked the same as the Players
BMW PGA the same as the PGA
Fed Ex should get the same as the RTD
Regular tour events should be ranked the same both on the ET , PGA and Asia Tour
One tour IMO shouldn't dominate
Players shouldn't be forced to play on the PGA Tour to gain ranking points to allow them to enter the majors and WGC etc.
Golf is dominated by the US PGA and things like the Fed Ex and IMO for the future of the game outside the US it needs to change.
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Make up your mind.
You moan that the qualifying criteria are biased towards PGA players and yet acknowledge that the PGA Tour and, by definition, its players are the strongest.
Surely one of the tests set by a Major should be to challenge the best players, not to provide experience for up and coming youngsters.
Tongo
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Life becomes a lot easier once you realise that not everything is perfect and not everything is fair.
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Make me mind up ?
I haven't changed it ?
I know the PGA is the strongest tour - that hasn't been debated
But that doesn't mean there aren't talented players away from that tour that could challenge at the Masters - never said anything about just providing expirence for up and coming youngsters
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Aren't we supposed to at least try and work towards a fairer system ?
Isn't golf trying to promote itself to be open to all ? Yet we have one of their majors to be a bit more exclusive - or is it only when it suits
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The players are professionals and will, therefore, gravitate towards those events offering the greatest financial rewards.
The prize money on offer this side of the Atlantic will never be an inducement to the international (not just US) players.
Raesy92
Assistant Pro
Did someone not post earlier complaining about OWGR points being overly biased towards PGA tour events yet then proceeded to state that they carried more weight than a few PGA tour events they used as an example in their post...?
Why should the ET's top non major event carry as much OWGR points as that of the PGA's? It shouldn't because the field is not as strong!
Why should the ET's top non major event carry as much OWGR points as that of the PGA's? It shouldn't because the field is not as strong!
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I know
Hence why I said about bringing the ranking points away from the players to the actual event
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But players such as Pepperall and Fleetwood don't even regularly contend in ordinary events, yet you suggest they could challenge at the Masters.
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Marc Leishman didn't regulary contend on the PGA tour yet did in the Masters
Chad Champbell
Even Mike Weir and he went and won the Masters
Until last year or year before Spieth wasn't regularly contending
I have no doubt there are plenty of Pro's who don't contend but have a Major Challenge in them
Chad Champbell
Even Mike Weir and he went and won the Masters
Until last year or year before Spieth wasn't regularly contending
I have no doubt there are plenty of Pro's who don't contend but have a Major Challenge in them
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I know
Hence why I said about bringing the ranking points away from the players to the actual event
The best players will always contend for the biggest prizes and not OWGR points so the rankings would be completely distorted.
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Where as I believe a good number of players would chase the ranking points and play more events on other tours which would boost the events and bring in more sponsership due to bigger players playing.
Spread the ranking points which would IMO spread the world and start to remove the imbalance of the tours.
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Both Campbell and Weir had won four times on the PGA Tour before winning a Major.
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The history of the pro' game would seem to suggest they would not.
AirdrieHacker
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Definitely.
The masters is special, its actually enhanced by being played at the same venue, having a smaller field, etc.
I personally enjoy the fact that woosy, lyle and other previous winners return every year and have a go, history means so much to golf and these guys are a big part of Masters history.
I also believe its truly special to the players, many have cited as the one they want to win.
and c'mon who hasn't fantasised about slipping on that green jacket?
The masters is special, its actually enhanced by being played at the same venue, having a smaller field, etc.
I personally enjoy the fact that woosy, lyle and other previous winners return every year and have a go, history means so much to golf and these guys are a big part of Masters history.
I also believe its truly special to the players, many have cited as the one they want to win.
and c'mon who hasn't fantasised about slipping on that green jacket?
