should she be allowed back in the UK?

[Tashyboy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47229181#share-tools

Thoughts please.

 

[pokerjoke]

No

 

[KenL]

It's a no from me.

 

[Crazyface]

Hell no! from me.

 

[Doh]

She has lost two children to malnutrition and is 9 months pregnant and wants to come back so her baby will be looked after (her words) no, she supported ISIS and is therefore a war criminal.

 

[Imurg]

The only reason she wants back in is so she can have her baby here and "it will be looked after"
She doesn't regret her decision to leave so her mindset hasn't been changed. This country wasn't good enough when she left, why is it suddenly good enough now..?
Seeing severed heads in a bin doesn't faze her....
I think there will be a major outcry from the public if she's allowed back.
The words "you made your bed now lie in it" never seemed so apt.
Sorry Girl - you are home.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Short answer - no.

Long answer - no, go away.

But more the question - why is this story making headlines? What else is there behind it?

 

[Hobbit]

Is she British by birth? Has she committed a criminal offence?

I don't agree with her beliefs and I think her attitude stinks but what has she done wrong? She has a strong, radical belief about the spread Islam but what has she physically done wrong? Where do you draw the line on beliefs? Where do you draw the line on culpability? She fed her husband who was an IS fighter. Does that constitute culpability?

She was a 15 yr old kid when she left. She was married within 10 days of meeting her future husband. There's a lot to look at before totally condemning her. If a kid is brainwashed, radicalised, do you write them off or try to un-brainwash them?

I'd rather she wasn't allowed back in but as things currently stand how does the UK stop her from returning to the UK? Unless she is declared a non-person, her home country is the UK.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Surely in this modern age we should show compassion and understanding to her.
Nah, not a chance, it’s a no from me.

 

[USER1999]

Bring her back, and then spend millions tracking her for the next 20 years?

It's a no from me.

 

[Dando]

The only way she should be allowed back in the uk is in a wooden box

 

[Britishshooting]

Is she British by birth? Has she committed a criminal offence?

I don't agree with her beliefs and I think her attitude stinks but what has she done wrong? She has a strong, radical belief about the spread Islam but what has she physically done wrong? Where do you draw the line on beliefs? Where do you draw the line on culpability? She fed her husband who was an IS fighter. Does that constitute culpability?

She was a 15 yr old kid when she left. She was married within 10 days of meeting her future husband. There's a lot to look at before totally condemning her. If a kid is brainwashed, radicalised, do you write them off or try to un-brainwash them?

I'd rather she wasn't allowed back in but as things currently stand how does the UK stop her from returning to the UK? Unless she is declared a non-person, her home country is the UK.

I honestly think views like this are why this country is going down the pan.

 

[rudebhoy]

Is she British by birth? Has she committed a criminal offence?

I don't agree with her beliefs and I think her attitude stinks but what has she done wrong? She has a strong, radical belief about the spread Islam but what has she physically done wrong? Where do you draw the line on beliefs? Where do you draw the line on culpability? She fed her husband who was an IS fighter. Does that constitute culpability?

She was a 15 yr old kid when she left. She was married within 10 days of meeting her future husband. There's a lot to look at before totally condemning her. If a kid is brainwashed, radicalised, do you write them off or try to un-brainwash them?

I'd rather she wasn't allowed back in but as things currently stand how does the UK stop her from returning to the UK? Unless she is declared a non-person, her home country is the UK.

You make some good points there, like you say, she hasn't committed any crime. She is entitled to her beliefs, as are people of a similar mindset, even if we don't agree with it. Isn't freedom of expression part of what we fought for?

 

[Kellfire]

I honestly think views like this are why this country is going down the pan.

Nah, it's actually a pretty awesome country to live and certainly better than it was historically but people love to use expressions like "this is why this country..." anytime something socially or politically happens that they don't agree with. Hobbit has shown insight into both sides of the argument including the human side and has still said he doesn't want the girl to return. If you really think moderate thinking is a bad thing, perhaps you should move to a country which promotes only hard line thinking... maybe an ISIS led territory somewhere?

I think we should let the girl return, for the child if nothing else. We are better than this. Let's TRY to re-educate, show compassion and lead from the front. It's not easy, it's not necessarily cheap but someone has to so why not us?

 

[Imurg]

If she regretted her decision to leave.
If she renounced Islamic State
If she pleaded that she was a young girl, brainwashed by a radical group.
If she wanted to come back to be a useful member of society....
Then maybe she would have a few more supporters.
Any of the above seem apparent?
The words " I don't regret leaving" will seal it for, I believe, the vast majority of the general public.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Is she British by birth? Has she committed a criminal offence?

I don't agree with her beliefs and I think her attitude stinks but what has she done wrong? She has a strong, radical belief about the spread Islam but what has she physically done wrong? Where do you draw the line on beliefs? Where do you draw the line on culpability? She fed her husband who was an IS fighter. Does that constitute culpability?

She was a 15 yr old kid when she left. She was married within 10 days of meeting her future husband. There's a lot to look at before totally condemning her. If a kid is brainwashed, radicalised, do you write them off or try to un-brainwash them?

I'd rather she wasn't allowed back in but as things currently stand how does the UK stop her from returning to the UK? Unless she is declared a non-person, her home country is the UK.

Exactly this - she is a British National with a passport so she can’t be stopped coming and then she is assessed

 

[Wolf]

Is she British by birth? Has she committed a criminal offence?

I don't agree with her beliefs and I think her attitude stinks but what has she done wrong? She has a strong, radical belief about the spread Islam but what has she physically done wrong? Where do you draw the line on beliefs? Where do you draw the line on culpability? She fed her husband who was an IS fighter. Does that constitute culpability?

She was a 15 yr old kid when she left. She was married within 10 days of meeting her future husband. There's a lot to look at before totally condemning her. If a kid is brainwashed, radicalised, do you write them off or try to un-brainwash them?

I'd rather she wasn't allowed back in but as things currently stand how does the UK stop her from returning to the UK? Unless she is declared a non-person, her home country is the UK.

Literally agree with this word for word..

There's nothing we can do to stop her returning as a British passport holder.

Do I think she should be allowed to return though absolutely not..

 

[bobmac]

My concern is her attitude towards non muslims.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

“Here’s the gun, use it”
So just to be clear, she can feck off as far as I’m concerned.
She went out there with the intention of marrying an isis fighter, shows no regret or remorse.
To let her back in risks the chance of another 07/07 or a Lee Rigby on our streets. It would also cost a fortune in surveillance.
Sod her, she made her bed go lie in it or do us all a favour.

 

[Sweep]

You make some good points there, like you say, she hasn't committed any crime. She is entitled to her beliefs, as are people of a similar mindset, even if we don't agree with it. Isn't freedom of expression part of what we fought for?

Didn’t she leave to join and support a terrorist organisation?