Mattyboy
Tour Rookie
Bazza, I am steering clear of that bay for a while - just in case I catch a dose (of the Shermans) you have left there!:ears:
Shermans....... A man in need of help!
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Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
Yeah why not, it's not like you to hold back anyway lol
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
Don't panic matty, they made me bleach it, it's clean I tell ya!
Mattyboy
Tour Rookie
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
Well unfortunately for you it was a 24hr bug, off to farleigh range at am today complete with 200 balls, armed with the knowledge of this place and a bag full of stubbornness they never stood a chance,
Weight on toes (not heels), grip neutral, swing plane steeper.........FIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
Still a little high on the ball flight, but that's Fridays lesson objective, but into a cold head wind 8i dropping at 140, 6i about 160, 4i about 175/180, 2h carrying 200 and driver about 235 ish.........
Woud like to thank the doctors of the forum for their treatment, vids to come!
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
john0
Journeyman Pro
After watching the 'before' and 'after' videos I have only 1 comment to make........ Do you not have any other T-shirts? 
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
After watching the 'before' and 'after' videos I have only 1 comment to make........ Do you not have any other T-shirts?
Cheek!
Wolfman
Tour Rookie
Looks better well done
Keep an eye on the swing plane still a little flat but thats not a major thing
Keep an eye on the swing plane still a little flat but thats not a major thing
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
I did notice its still a touch flat, I want to work on compression so steepness should come with that hopefully. Tell ya one thing 250 balls yesturday and roughly the same today, I'm shot to bits!
My mate Sundance had an outbreak of these at the weekend. Saw him trying to find a cure on Sunda and he's another who looked to be moving forward on the way down onto the toes
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
A bit late into the thread but I would suggest the problem is where you fan the club open to the inside in the takeaway and then do not get it back square into impact, this lags the hozel into the ball.
All the other things are symptoms of this. Your brain knows the face is wide open and makes various adjustments to your posture to try and recover the shot. Take the club back to the halfway position without any wrist hinge or forearm roll.
All the other things are symptoms of this. Your brain knows the face is wide open and makes various adjustments to your posture to try and recover the shot. Take the club back to the halfway position without any wrist hinge or forearm roll.
Lump
Tour Winner
I suffer from lasting bouts of the shanks. Takes a while to not think about them after one, even more so on the course. I seem to hit most shanks with my 52* Wedge. What I do is to concentrate on the take away going back nice and square and then on the downswing to only concentrate on the contact and not where the ball will be heading.
My little drill for building back up confidence is to stand with my feet together and swing as normal. I find it very hard to shank while doing this.
My little drill for building back up confidence is to stand with my feet together and swing as normal. I find it very hard to shank while doing this.
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
Recent the golf has been going pretty solid, average shooting of 34/35/36 still with the odd blob so overly pretty solid, went to the range today and boom, out of no where MASSIVE shanks... Lads, what's going wrong!:angry:
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums...1-BF0E-8997ED658151-4121-000003906C0427E4.mp4
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums...8-9F3D-7148757DED6B-4121-0000039092B1048E.mp4
WOW!!
The second one is a flippin' BEAUTY!!!!
:rofl:
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
I'm with SocketR - the killer happens almost immediately on the back swing when you fan the club head inside with the wrists then make your turn
I would also suggest that there's too much unfocussed 'swinging' in the vids, so you probably do this both on the range and the course. Never make such movements that aren't part of your intended swing or you are j likely to duplicate them in the swing.
I would also suggest that there's too much unfocussed 'swinging' in the vids, so you probably do this both on the range and the course. Never make such movements that aren't part of your intended swing or you are j likely to duplicate them in the swing.
Octagon
Newbie
yep look how closed your club face is at the top, its almost pointing straight up. Very shallow looking back swing, I think its a problem with your takeaway, have a look at this from Tom Watson http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-instruction/2012-10/tom-watson-takeaway. The shermans come from a closed club face not open.
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
I might aswell chip in......
You are simply swinging the club down FAR TOO MUCH outside the line... here's a pic (if it works)....
as you should be able to see above - there's no way you're going to get anything other than the hosel to the ball.
The question is WHY is that happening? and I don't think it has a sausage to do with what is happening with your clubface at the top of your backswing.... it's the downswing, and unfortunately it could be one of many things (poor weight shift, hands leaving the body, lazy left shoulder, right hip coming out too much) or a combination of many little things (which is why the shanks crop up for all types of players). What you need to ask (or resolve) is why is the clubhead coming so far outside the line when it's still 6" from the ball. My GUESS is that your not turning your upper body to the left enough whilst driving the hips... eg you're trying to steer your swing with your arms/wrists and your timing has simply gone to pot. The swing is driven by the body, you look like you're just trying to hit the ball with your arms. Your plane is pretty flat so a drill I'd suggest is actually address the ball with your clubface OUTSIDE the ball or with the ball sitting right by the hosel (so you're definitely going to shank it) then get the feeling of re-routing the club to the inside of the ball on the way down, that might mean you feel like you take the club away a little steeper and get the hands in a little tighter to your crutch on the way down.
Hope that helps... certainly the picture should give you a feel of what's going on.
You are simply swinging the club down FAR TOO MUCH outside the line... here's a pic (if it works)....
as you should be able to see above - there's no way you're going to get anything other than the hosel to the ball.
The question is WHY is that happening? and I don't think it has a sausage to do with what is happening with your clubface at the top of your backswing.... it's the downswing, and unfortunately it could be one of many things (poor weight shift, hands leaving the body, lazy left shoulder, right hip coming out too much) or a combination of many little things (which is why the shanks crop up for all types of players). What you need to ask (or resolve) is why is the clubhead coming so far outside the line when it's still 6" from the ball. My GUESS is that your not turning your upper body to the left enough whilst driving the hips... eg you're trying to steer your swing with your arms/wrists and your timing has simply gone to pot. The swing is driven by the body, you look like you're just trying to hit the ball with your arms. Your plane is pretty flat so a drill I'd suggest is actually address the ball with your clubface OUTSIDE the ball or with the ball sitting right by the hosel (so you're definitely going to shank it) then get the feeling of re-routing the club to the inside of the ball on the way down, that might mean you feel like you take the club away a little steeper and get the hands in a little tighter to your crutch on the way down.
Hope that helps... certainly the picture should give you a feel of what's going on.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
I dont think so! Address an iron behind the ball then twist the face open. See how the hozel is closing on the ball. Now twist it shut, the hozel is now moving away from it. The main problem is where the clubface is cutting across the ball from out to in and if the clubface is open then it's Armatige City!!!
Mine were coming from a shut face also (Rorys coach did indeed get me the fix).