Shafts in wedges

[GreiginFife]

I have decided to go for a couple of MP-T5 wedges and will bebuying from Clubhouse, utilising the custom fit option. Currently have Nippon NS1150GH Tour regular flex in all my irons am my two hybrids, however for the wedges I am thinking that stiffer is maybe a better idea (as wedge flex TT shafts are S200 IIRC) so I thought NS950GH in stiff would be analogous.
Is my thinking sound or duffer than a fatted 6 iron?

 

[BTatHome]

Your thinking is sound, in fact I have the NS Pro 950 in my Cleveland 588 wedges. Really nice shaft that I like the feel of, and helped me achieve the required spin and distances when custom fit for them.

 

[GreiginFife]

Your thinking is sound, in fact I have the NS Pro 950 in my Cleveland 588 wedges. Really nice shaft that I like the feel of, and helped me achieve the required spin and distances when custom fit for them.

Cheers, the 1150 is a great shaft but with being reg flex I wondered about keeping them the same. Then I thought my current T4 wedges are TT Wedge Flex so will be lighter and stiffer... hence coming to 950 in stiff. Think 1150 in stiff would just be too heavy.

 

[3565]

Cheers, the 1150 is a great shaft but with being reg flex I wondered about keeping them the same. Then I thought my current T4 wedges are TT Wedge Flex so will be lighter and stiffer... hence coming to 950 in stiff. Think 1150 in stiff would just be too heavy.

i have the Nippon modus pro 120s in my irons. They used to do the WV wedge shaft but have now brought out a modus wedge shaft which is an improvement on the WV.

I would of thought it be more prudent to have your wedges heavier then your irons.

 

[GreiginFife]

i have the Nippon modus pro 120s in my irons. They used to do the WV wedge shaft but have now brought out a modus wedge shaft which is an improvement on the WV.

I would of thought it be more prudent to have your wedges heavier then your irons.

Interesting point. Why do you think it more prudent if most people use R300 or S300 (or equivalent) and wedge flex is effectively S200? I realise there will be exceptions to this such as yourself.
My own wedges would have been lighter than my irons for as long as I have owned them, why would it be prudent to change that now?

 

[shortstuff]

Can't follow your logic. If your irons are Regular your swing speed won't justify a stiff shaft for your wedges where your swing should be even smoother.

 

[Foxholer]

Interesting point. Why do you think it more prudent if most people use R300 or S300 (or equivalent) and wedge flex is effectively S200? I realise there will be exceptions to this such as yourself.
My own wedges would have been lighter than my irons for as long as I have owned them, why would it be prudent to change that now?

Worth noting that S200 (or S400) is not a major different weight to S300. They are all made to be S300s (I believe) and the ones that are slightly out of spec/tolerance are labelled differently. Quite a few folk opt for S400, both because they are marginally heavier and because the weights of a 'set' are much more likely to be similar! So going from 1150 to 950 will be a much bigger jump.

And it's also swing related. If the 1150s were to temper a transition issue, then that's quite possibly irrelevant to wedges - which, most folk rarely swung fully.

I don't believe wedge shafts make a huge difference anyway. I've used various shafts - from 950s to PX6.5/1150X tip-trimmed and the performance, for me, hasn't seemed to be significantly different!

 

[GreiginFife]

Can't follow your logic. If your irons are Regular your swing speed won't justify a stiff shaft for your wedges where your swing should be even smoother.

My logic is simply based on people having R300 shafts for example in their irons, having TT Wedge Flex in their wddges which is effectively S200. So most people who have this instance, have, unconscioisly, got stiffer wedge shafts. I must have had for the last while.
Thats the logic, not saying its right, hence the post asking.

 

[MashieNiblick]

I have often wondered about "wedge flex" shafts. If you use R300 shafts then your wedges will be stiffer than your irons, if you use S300 the they are less stiff (though possibly imperceptibly) so.

I have R300 shafts in my irons and having used wedges with R300, Wedge and S300 flex shafts my conclusion is...it makes no difference, although I understand why slightly heavier stiffer shafts would theoretically give a bit more control.

 

[GreiginFife]

I have often wondered about "wedge flex" shafts. If you use R300 shafts then your wedges will be stiffer than your irons, if you use S300 the they are less stiff (though possibly imperceptibly) so.

I have R300 shafts in my irons and having used wedges with R300, Wedge and S300 flex shafts my conclusion is...it makes no difference, although I understand why slightly heavier stiffer shafts would theoretically give a bit more control.

This is the reason for my question. I have become accustom to the way they play now having had them so long. So the change, what effect would having softer have on how I play. My wedge play is generally what saves me in a round.

Cheers FH, that makes sense. I will wait til the father-in-law gets back from Foxhills later today and see what he reckons.

 

[Bobirdie]

I know where you are coming from.

Any time i have looked at the pros 'whats in the bag' they all tend to play softer wedge shafts to their irons.

I just got custom fit and had the px 5.5s put in my wedges aswell to match my irons. The fitter said to me the px 6.0s would maybe feel a bit boardy around the greens in the wedges

 

[One Planer]

I find myself the prime example of this thread.

R300 irons. Wedge flex shafts.

I've used a KBS variant before and want keen.

I like the Dynamic Gold wedge purely because the shafts give me a lower initial launch.

I have a tendency to hit quite a high ball but my swing speed is borderline between stiff and regular.

When I was fitted, the best numbers came from the softer flex but with a heavier shaft. Light weight shafts went to high.

When it came to wedges, with the additional loft on the face I wanted to keep the flight similar to my irons and not key the ball get too high.

The wedge flex, to me, has a similar feel and I thought that important as I didn't want my wedges to feel 'different' to my irons.

 

[GreiginFife]

I find myself the prime example of this thread.

R300 irons. Wedge flex shafts.

I've used a KBS variant before and want keen.

I like the Dynamic Gold wedge purely because the shafts give me a lower initial launch.

I have a tendency to hit quite a high ball but my swing speed is borderline between stiff and regular.

When I was fitted, the best numbers came from the softer flex but with a heavier shaft. Light weight shafts went to high.

When it came to wedges, with the additional loft on the face I wanted to keep the flight similar to my irons and not key the ball get too high.

The wedge flex, to me, has a similar feel and I thought that important as I didn't want my wedges to feel 'different' to my irons.

This is what I am trying to get to Gaz, going from XP105 the NS1150 is a big bit different, but good different, and I do notice when I use my wedges. Just thinking that trying to keep them the same (relative to the difference from XP105 to wedge flex).

Spoke to the father in law and he reckons that the 1050 stiff woukd have been better but as its not available then 1150 regular would be better than the 950 stiff.

 

[GreiginFife]

Got myself on a monitor this afternoon and tried various options. NS950 is stiff came out well on top. Flight and spin was almost identicle to my T4s with TT wedge flex.
1150 regular went too low with hardly any spin and stiff in 1150 was worse.
So 50° and 55° MP-T5s ordered with the Nippon NS950GH Tour in stiff.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Having been custom fitted several times, I've never bothered about a different shaft in the wedges, nor offered any other options. In my own mind (a crazy mixed up place as it is) you aren't really ever hitting these flat out and so the shaft shouldn't make too much difference. As long as they aren't overly heavy I'm happy. I find some makes (Cally in particular) feel too heavy in my hands. Whether this has much to do with the shaft itself and not a heavier head I don't know but I like my wedges to suit my eye behind the ball and feel light enough in my hands that I can control them over a 3/4 swing. I found it funny that Vokey didn't mention other shaft options when I discussed wedge fittings at Silvermere and a demo day at the Downshire range in Wokingham. Perhaps they don't see the need

Having said all that I can definitely see where the OP is coming from and the way a stiffer shaft could help. As I said I've never played around and so if he decides to go down that road I'd be interested to read what the results are. If nothing else it may give another option at some point in the futurw