Sexist remark or over reaction?

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If i just won a million quid, mrs rooter would want a new kitchen, a new hair do, nails done and maybe a spray tan. Am i sexist?

I don't take offence at what PA said but there is a world of difference between you stating what your wife likes and him making a sweeping assumption about what someone he doesn't know would like based entirely on her gender. That should be obvious?

Was the comment sexist? Yes. Was it offensive? No, not really, just an old fuddy duddy's attempt at humour.
 

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I asked my husband and he thinks it's clearly sexist and that any men who don't agree should get back to the seventies where they belong!

;)


Would love to be transported back to the '70s...
Could offer my seat to a member of the fairer sex without fear of being on the receiving end of a torrent of verbal abuse as is often the case nowadays...

The world has moved on apparently...
Sometimes, I believe, not necessarily for the better...

And, yes I am aware my choice of phrase is fully unPC in this modern world...
 

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A spray tan? you just won £1m... take her on holiday you sexist!! :D

Are you not aware of the dangers of UV light to the ageing process and potential skin cancer?

Dont want her looking all old, would have to upgrade! And cant have her die. Who would cook my tea?
 

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Nope.
But if you do win a million, could you introduce me to your Missus
;)

No problem, she would eat you for breakfast! Never mess with a girl who's dad was an ex professional boxer. Not ashamed to say my wife would knock me the hell out!
 

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Could offer my seat to a member of the fairer sex without fear of being on the receiving end of a torrent of verbal abuse as is often the case nowadays...

At the risk of taking the thread off track.... Have you experienced this? It's oft-quoted but does it ever actually happen? I've never witnessed it. The only two reactions I've ever seen are either gratefully accepting the seat or politely declining.
 

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At the risk of taking the thread off track.... Have you experienced this? It's oft-quoted but does it ever actually happen? I've never witnessed it. The only two reactions I've ever seen are either gratefully accepting the seat or politely declining.

Me too, as everyone I've ever offered a seat to has mostly said 'thank you very much'. In fact the rudest one I've ever come across was one elderly gentlemen who made some comment of 'about time' when I moved for him. Which I thought was a bit rich seeing as he had only just come on the bus I was on. But on the whole no issues at all.
 

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At the risk of taking the thread off track.... Have you experienced this? It's oft-quoted but does it ever actually happen? I've never witnessed it. The only two reactions I've ever seen are either gratefully accepting the seat or politely declining.

I've had a "there's no need to do that just because I'm a woman" once. My reply was I'm doing it because I'm a gentleman, and it has nowt to do with your gender.
 

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At the risk of taking the thread off track.... Have you experienced this? It's oft-quoted but does it ever actually happen? I've never witnessed it. The only two reactions I've ever seen are either gratefully accepting the seat or politely declining.

Never had any such response when offering a seat, but I have had a few tut's and scowls when holding a door open for female colleagues. Little do they know I hold the door for everyone.

Anyhow, given all the other nonsense these colleagues have to put up with from the dinosaurs, I'm not going to criticize them for the odd undeserved scowl. "mile in their shoes and all that"
 

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Yes it is sexist and no it's not surprising that many middle aged men struggle to see that. Thankfully as women gain equality, such comments are becoming rarer.

More importantly though I don't believe any malevolence was intended, as has been mentioned already it's a reflection of the world Alliss grew up in.

Sexist is probably the wrong word here .............................. the word I think I would use is ....... funny!
These days there are too many people climbing over each other to wave the 'I'm offended' flag.
I find the need for an apology more offensive .................... so, what does that make me?

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Sexist is probably the wrong word here .............................. the word I think I would use is ....... funny!
These days there are too many people climbing over each other to wave the 'I'm offended' flag.
I find the need for an apology more offensive .................... so, what does that make me?

Slime.

It wasn't offensive, but it did have the air of casual sexism. And I'm just as bored by the offenderati brigade as you are.

If PA had said a new house / sports car / set of golf clubs then there wouldn't be any issues. The choice of the word kitchen may have been accidental, but it was uncomfortable given his prior comments about equality.
 

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It wasn't offensive, but it did have the air of casual sexism. And I'm just as bored by the offenderati brigade as you are.

If PA had said a new house / sports car / set of golf clubs then there wouldn't be any issues. The choice of the word kitchen may have been accidental, but it was uncomfortable given his prior comments about equality.

OMG JP, I almost agree with you;)... not sure it was "accidental," more a case of being in character for the old duffer. I just find him funny in a quaint old way. I can't take anything he says seriously, and in effect feel sorry for those who do. The guy is inconsequential in the great scheme of life.

If someone wants to do battle with inequality and sexism, surely there's far greater examples out there that when challenged properly will actually lead to a more meaningful change.
 

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OMG JP, I almost agree with you;)... not sure it was "accidental," more a case of being in character for the old duffer. I just find him funny in a quaint old way. I can't take anything he says seriously, and in effect feel sorry for those who do. The guy is inconsequential in the great scheme of life.

If someone wants to do battle with inequality and sexism, surely there's far greater examples out there that when challenged properly will actually lead to a more meaningful change.

Re: second para - indeed, though challenging comments made on a national broadcaster is by no means insignificant.

PA means no harm I am sure. He is a caricature of many elders we all know, the difference is our elders aren't being broadcast by the BBC!
 

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I've had a "there's no need to do that just because I'm a woman" once. My reply was I'm doing it because I'm a gentleman, and it has nowt to do with your gender.

Which I suppose could be churlish or polite, depending on how it was said but not a "torrent of verbal abuse".

I had a slightly awkward situation once attempting to give up my seat for an elderly man who clearly needed it more than me but he looked slightly embarrassed and wouldn't accept.
 
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A lot of ageism going on in this thread.
Apparently Mr Alliss made his, supposedly inappropriate, comment because of his age.
I find this offensive on behalf of all the seniors I know who do not say sexist things.

I demand an apology from Golf monthly on behalf of all the posts above blaming elder statesmen for Mr Alliss' comments.
 
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