SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Looking at the amount of crap on the verges of roads they should start taxing people to use cars.
Wait a minute ?
Wait a minute ?
drdel
Tour Rookie
But the argument was that a charge would be needed to pay councils for the additional clear-up costs - that means a collection, redistribution and logistical system etc, etc. Have you ever come across any Council initiative/scheme that's free of cost?
My holiday house is there, I’ll probably(definitely) know her ??
The Hc are already having to clear up the mess or should i say not bothering too, what they proposing is charging people £1 per night stay, so the ones making the mess are not going to be charged anything, all acomm providers will just be charging the wrong Audience, cash grab on those who are alreay making a contribution, Unfort those who are making the mess will carry on doing so as there is no way of collecting this tax from those causing the problem
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Suspect you wouldn’t know natural beauty if it walked up and slapped you in the face
As for the op - seems a good idea , how do they implement it though
GreiginFife
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Same way most other cities and nations across the globe have. Add it automatically to the booking price. This won't affect people just tent pitching or camper parking. It never will/can without policing.
But where someone makes a booking, add £1 per night just like they do in places worldwide.
Even if this catches 2 million visitors averaging 5 night stays that's £10m in the coffers to pay for services and localities. Whether that reaches its way through the SNP coffers is another matter.
straight into the Hc coffers Greig, comp missing the problem
User20204
Well-known member
I think Patrick has already pointed out, those who make bookings aren't the problem it's generally those in the campervans, who book nothing, drive on by, spend nothing and dump all their stuff by the side of the road. It's almost like those who book bnb's are being punished for others mess.
GreiginFife
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I realise this, hence my pointing out that those that just tent pitch or camper park will, largely, be unaffected. And unpoliced mostly.
But, those that do book, charge extra like most other places and that's extra income regardless.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
They might be independent soon so we can pay at the checkpoint when we go in .
williamalex1
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We mibbie let you in, but don't attempt to bribe the border guards
Bunkermagnet
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It’s ok, we don’t use Euros this side of the borderWe mibbie let you in, but don't attempt to bribe the border guards
Grant85
Head Pro
I think this is fair enough. Tourists do bring revenue to an area, but the local authority can be left with millions in additional costs without much additional revenue. And if the revenue is genuinely put into maintaining and improving services, it should have a positive effect on visitors and the tourism economy in that area.
Doon frae Troon
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Noticed a huge increase in motor home use last time I was in the Highlands a couple of years ago.
Communities seem to be working hard to increase parking but the mean sods are so disrespectful that they ignore these and overnight park in enlarged roadside passing places.
They leave their litter [and worse] create churned up areas on the roads and generally disrespect the beauty of a country that they have travelled a long distance to see
Majority are great, as is normal in life it is the unthinking few who create the problems.
Communities seem to be working hard to increase parking but the mean sods are so disrespectful that they ignore these and overnight park in enlarged roadside passing places.
They leave their litter [and worse] create churned up areas on the roads and generally disrespect the beauty of a country that they have travelled a long distance to see
Majority are great, as is normal in life it is the unthinking few who create the problems.
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
In the SouthEast they are called "travellers" (amongst other things). Usual signs are piles of tree cuttings, tarmac and about a dozen rubbish bags for each stop. It's an added bonus if they have stopped close to crop fields, as that usually means 6 months out of action for the fields to be clean of the waste bacteria as well.
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I feel for the small business, that will have implement systems and account for the monies, along I assume regular returns and with probably penalties and fines if they do not comply on time and full.
More red tape.
Ignoring that, can understand it but again it will not hit the people that the article really talks about and the human waste aspect just to get your back up etc,. As always its easier to catch the people that are in the system and already being fairly/fully compliant..
More red tape.
Ignoring that, can understand it but again it will not hit the people that the article really talks about and the human waste aspect just to get your back up etc,. As always its easier to catch the people that are in the system and already being fairly/fully compliant..
It sounds as though they need to employ someone to go around and get people to move on, stop camping, parking etc illegally. If it is currently free for all then people will just keep rocking up and stopping where they can.
I'm not generally a fan of a tourist tax, I think they can be counter productive, but if tourism is getting out of control in an area then it may be required. Trial it for a year and see.
I'm not generally a fan of a tourist tax, I think they can be counter productive, but if tourism is getting out of control in an area then it may be required. Trial it for a year and see.
Noticed a huge increase in motor home use last time I was in the Highlands a couple of years ago.
Communities seem to be working hard to increase parking but the mean sods are so disrespectful that they ignore these and overnight park in enlarged roadside passing places.
They leave their litter [and worse] create churned up areas on the roads and generally disrespect the beauty of a country that they have travelled a long distance to see
Majority are great, as is normal in life it is the unthinking few who create the problems.
i shudder to think what its like in some of the smaller places around the Highlands but Sneck has become a real problem, car parks and side residentual road full of camper vans, some nights along the road though the bught Park lines of them and all had to drive past a Cavan park owned by the council.
not only that back packers setting up camp in the park, in the Islands (trail across the ness, essentially a park) even in parks of Torvean Golf course at times this summer one night there we 10 tents set up in there. There are no Toilet facilites so these people a crapping in a busy park. all this tax is going to do is drive some that are already using camp sites to parking elsewhere causing more mess. If the money were going to pay fo some wardens to direct these people to designated sites fair enough, but it won't just a cash grab against the wrong people IMO
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Seven years ago many of the overnight spots in the Western Isles were charging via pay pal, which also meant they had the bonus of internet access.
Works like an honesty box, lets hope 'wild campers' as they like to call themselves are honest.
the council at one time did have a couple of wardens in Inverness and would direct them to the council owned camp site, with cuts these went. all the places worst hit have signs saying no overnight parking and no camping, but here lies the problem the Outdooor access code says you are allowed to wild camp as long as you adhear to certain things, like liiter and human waste, but digging a hole in the middle of nowhere is one thing taking a dump in a public park in the middle of a town is very different