Serena Williams - Disgraceful

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Papas1982 said:
Her hair was blonde in the final.
I’d also say that she isn’t white, certainly a paler tone has been used, but she doesn’t appear as white as the umpire.
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Having had another look at the cartoon I'd agree with this. Osaka certainly isn't depicted in the same tones as the umpire.
 
therod said:
Yep, to make a point. In this case a pretty unpleasant one.
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It doesn’t make an unpleasant one. Only if people decide to see it that way
She is a muscular big lady.. so in the picture you see a muscular big lady throwing a strop. Racket broken and dummy spat
 
pauljames87 said:
It doesn’t make an unpleasant one. Only if people decide to see it that way
She is a muscular big lady.. so in the picture you see a muscular big lady throwing a strop. Racket broken and dummy spat
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Yep that’s exactly what you see 🤣🤣🤣🤣 read the thread
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1038833436818067456
I like this video.. clips of her “class” in defeat through the years

When she win she’s fine but man don’t beat her she can’t take it

She keeps going on about being a mum.. start by behaving with more grace on the court to set a high example .. winning isn’t everything
 
pauljames87 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1038833436818067456
I like this video.. clips of her “class” in defeat through the years

When she win she’s fine but man don’t beat her she can’t take it

She keeps going on about being a mum.. start by behaving with more grace on the court to set a high example .. winning isn’t everything
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So you saw the possibly the greatest female tennis player of all time for 1 minute out of a career spanning 20 years showing frustration, what exactly is the point of this, as for the keeps going on about being a mum, her kid has just turned 1.
I’m sure we could find 1 minute video clips of Nadal or Murray etc showing them behaving in a similar manner.
 
Has Nadal broken his racket? Has Murray called the umpire a thief?
Cartoon wasn’t PC and was offensive, but many are ... not a wise move to publish.
 
harpo_72 said:
Has Nadal broken his racket? Has Murray called the umpire a thief?
Cartoon wasn’t PC and was offensive, but many are ... not a wise move to publish.
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Hence why i said similar, Murray has certainly smashed his racket and last year Nadal told the same umpire he would never chair a match of his again.
 
I think we should all make extreme statements such as -

“If you think it’s racist, you’re perpetually offended.”

or

“If you don’t think it’s racist, you’re part of the problem.”


That always helps debate.

In this case, it’s not racist. Not at all. It’s a caricature of a woman with androgynous appearance. We don’t have to hide behind the fact that she’s got quite a butch appearance. That physique is a huge part of her success as a tennis player and she certainly doesn’t hide that fact.

If you think it’s racist, I don’t think you’re necessarily offended by everything. You are wrong on this though.
 
I saw the incident, saw the cartoon and have read the thread.

My take on it all is the penalties given in the match we’re totally justified.

My take on the cartoon WAS going to be it’s just a caricature with nothing at all wrong with it. That was until I looked at a number of photos of Williams. The caricature is just that apart from the lips. Williams doesn’t have what I’d call the typical ethnic trait of big lips, but the cartoonist has saw fit to put them in.

And that, for me, is when it becomes racist.

As for Aussie newspaper headlines and cartoons, you would cringe at some of them. Not that uncommon but in this age of global media they need to mature.
 
Kellfire said:
I think we should all make extreme statements such as -

“If you think it’s racist, you’re perpetually offended.”

or

“If you don’t think it’s racist, you’re part of the problem.”


That always helps debate.

In this case, it’s not racist. Not at all. It’s a caricature of a woman with androgynous appearance. We don’t have to hide behind the fact that she’s got quite a butch appearance. That physique is a huge part of her success as a tennis player and she certainly doesn’t hide that fact.

If you think it’s racist, I don’t think you’re necessarily offended by everything. You are wrong on this though.
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Thank god she wasn’t wearing a poppy!
 
That cartoon didn't strike me as racist, at all. It simply looks like a caricature of Williams having a strop. If there is some historical racist undertone to it, then it went over my head. I would never have seen that and thought it was racist, it just looks like a deserved bit of harmless ridicule.
 
Orikoru said:
That cartoon didn't strike me as racist, at all. It simply looks like a caricature of Williams having a strop. If there is some historical racist undertone to it, then it went over my head. I would never have seen that and thought it was racist, it just looks like a deserved bit of harmless ridicule.
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Same here, unless you’re actually scrutinising the cartoon and looking for problems.
 
An arguement from some woman on TV was that the cartoon depicted Williams as "a beast". Well from where I watch TV when Williams is on, playing tennis or otherwise, I wouldn't argue with her. (flippin' 'eck, I had to type this three times to make sure it was PC enough).
 
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