Serena Williams - Disgraceful

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https://www.news.com.au/sport/tenni...e/news-story/19bfa5e39fadd88e54a0ddd217c37816

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...-at-umpire-as-superb-naomi-osaka-wins-us-open

So Serena Williams gets a code violation for "coaching" ( which it appears was correct ) - she then cant accept it and goes on ranting at the umpire with accusations towards the umpire , then gets a point deduction and a game deduction - accusing the umpire of sexism.

Its spoilt brat disgusting behaviour and should be treated severly

Its a shame she spoilt her opponents moment
 
Well said. Her behaviour was that of a petulant child who has a tantrum because things aren't going her way. Totally deserved penalties throughout and naturally she played the race card to try and justify her actions. Great tennis player, appalling person.
 
Watched it live last night a work.

She just didn't have it and instead of accepting that, she has tarnished Osaka's win. Her coach has apparently admitted the violation. She needs to go on a massive charm defensive now. If the governing body don't hit her hard for this then i think they need to take a long look at themselves.

She seems to have changed since her return, she's had a few little outbursts.
 
Pathetic Shark said:
she played the race card to try and justify her actions. Great tennis player, appalling person.
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Saw it on the news. I didn't hear the race bit, I only heard her trying to justify herself not lying by saying something about her little girl, and her being a mother.

That is disgraceful enough but to then falsely accuse someone of racism is just as bad as racism itself as it totally undermines genuine efforts to eradicate a scourge on society. Should be given a hefty ban if all that is found to be true. Utterly classless.
 
Watched it on the news this morning. She is now trying to excuse it by playing the sexiest card. According to her, had she been a man then it would have been okay to question the honesty of the umpire and call him a thief 😵😵. Utterly lacking in class, she stole the biggest moment of the winners life by finding excuses for her own poor play. Disgusting behaviour and well done the umpire for having the guts to see this through. I hope the fine is huge.

Just seen another clip at the end ceremony where the crowd are booing and the winner is visibly upset and crying, not tears of joy. Really sad.
 
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Not seen any of this but had a good read about it. Ironically she has loads of support from American ex players and now pundits On social media But non Americans are saying she was bang out of order. She has gone on record as saying that "she would never cheat by coaching from the sidelines and would sooner lose". He coach has gone on record as saying " he was trying to coach/cheat" from the sidelines. Come what may, she was outplayed, she has used sexism, rascism and threatened the umpire with all sorts. For one of the best women players of all time who has fought for blacks, equal rights etc. It is a poor show indeed.
 
Very disappointing, MacInroe-esque temper tantrum. No doubt a fine and, maybe, sanctions coming her way. But at least her runners up speech acknowledged Naomi’s great win, and she did say that it was time stop booing Naomi and applaud a great win.
 
If the rules say a coach can't give her advice and if he gave her advice then she has no case.
If she doesn't agree with the rule, the middle of a match is not the place to discuss it.
Having a tantrum and having a go at the umpire for doing his job was out of order, and someone should teach her it's rude to point
 
I watched it live, expecting a challenging and intriguing match. In some ways it was, in others, not.

Serena's tactical nous has never impressed me, but she has been able to overwhelm her opponents with power - and pretty good placement!
Right from the off, she seemed 'lost' about how to combat Osaka. I get the impression that she is not a great 'thinker'!

The initial code violation seemed pretty reasonable to me, though I interpreted her coach's sign differently to some commentators. Serena should have made her - quite reasonable imo - protest, thrown her towel on the chair or ground and got on with her job. There was no actual penalty involved, so 'nothing lost'. Instead, the frustration she obviously felt about her game got the better of her and, in an unacceptable loss of professionalism, she 'lost it'! The 'Racquet Abuse' CV was irrefutable! I thought she that might have been the end of the petulance, but her continued loss of control was always going to 'end in tears'!

I've never really been a great Serena fan for some reason (possibly the tactical nous mentioned above), though her results and some of her shots are hugely impressive! Her comeback after life-threatening conditions following the birth of her daughter has also been impressive. But losing her cool, as she certainly did last night, destroys much of the respect she might have gained.

I think she'll have a new coach in the very near future!
 
I haven’t seen the incident only read it. Interestingly the sexist card is being played. Lifted from BBC Sport:

“American 12-time Grand Slam singles champion Bille Jean King:When a woman is emotional, she's "hysterical" and she's penalised for it. When a man does the same, he's "outspoken" & and there are no repercussions. Thank you, @serenawilliams, for calling out this double standard. More voices are needed to do the same.

Two-time Grand Slam champion Victoria Azarenka: If it was a men's match, this wouldn't happen like this. It just wouldn't.”
 
Piece said:
I haven’t seen the incident only read it. Interestingly the sexist card is being played. Lifted from BBC Sport:

“American 12-time Grand Slam singles champion Bille Jean King:When a woman is emotional, she's "hysterical" and she's penalised for it. When a man does the same, he's "outspoken" & and there are no repercussions. Thank you, @serenawilliams, for calling out this double standard. More voices are needed to do the same.

Two-time Grand Slam champion Victoria Azarenka: If it was a men's match, this wouldn't happen like this. It just wouldn't.”
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This conveniently ignores her behaviour towards officials, towards her opponent. They are an attempt at distraction in true Mourhino style. It's a shame Billie Jean King is not so bothered about the impact on the winner and respect towards officials.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
This conveniently ignores her behaviour towards officials, towards her opponent. They are an attempt at distraction in true Mourhino style. It's a shame Billie Jean King is not so bothered about the impact on the winner and respect towards officials.
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Not defending Williams, but didn’t we see the Female Tennis player reprimanded for changing her sweaty top on court, yet the men sit there topless and nothing is said or done.
Maybe there is an element of double standards in the game?
 
pauldj42 said:
Not defending Williams, but didn’t we see the Female Tennis player reprimanded for changing her sweaty top on court, yet the men sit there topless and nothing is said or done.
Maybe there is an element of double standards in the game?
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Simple end to that argument, allow the women to sit topless then!
 
Fish said:
Simple end to that argument, allow the women to sit topless then!
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I believe the umpire has apologised for the warning the lady player got for changing her top - said he got it very wrong
 
Is she married to Lukaku, 2 flat track bullies together, a marriage made in heaven 😜
 
Serena needs to understand that application of the rules can vary from one rules official to another. Ask any football supporter over here.

The only sport I see that seems to have got it right is American Football but they use video for decision making in tough decision situations.

She lost her cool and should not be trying to justify her actions. Others may have got away with it with other umpires but it does not mean she should.
 
HowlingGale said:
Saw it on the news. I didn't hear the race bit, I only heard her trying to justify herself not lying by saying something about her little girl, and her being a mother.

That is disgraceful enough but to then falsely accuse someone of racism is just as bad as racism itself as it totally undermines genuine efforts to eradicate a scourge on society. Should be given a hefty ban if all that is found to be true. Utterly classless.
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Sorry, but I disagree with that; to falsely accuse someone of racism is far worse than racism itself, and I say that not to defend or diminish racism but to emphasise just how much worse than the act I consider the false accusation to be.
 
pauldj42 said:
Not defending Williams, but didn’t we see the Female Tennis player reprimanded for changing her sweaty top on court, yet the men sit there topless and nothing is said or done.
Maybe there is an element of double standards in the game?
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Tbf to the umpire though. There is a rule against women changing on court. There isn’t for men. So whilst it’s stupid she got penalised, It was simply an umpire informing rules. Also, I believe the rules are from the individual organisations. In this case it’s actually the WTA that have the rule. So it was women’s tennis punishing her as such. Not a man, or men’s tennis.
 
pauldj42 said:
Not defending Williams, but didn’t we see the Female Tennis player reprimanded for changing her sweaty top on court, yet the men sit there topless and nothing is said or done.
Maybe there is an element of double standards in the game?
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Two entirely different situations and her quoting that is trying to give her own bullying rant credibility. Papas has given a good answer to that point but I believe the rule has now been changed anyway. It was a daft rule, correct that it has been removed.
 
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