Scottish Prem 18/19

[Doon frae Troon]

As a Southerner with no axe to grind at all

1) I didnt know "other" attendences increased.... why was that?

2) Commercially, a competitive Old Firm game must be easier to sell than absolutely any other game in Scotland. By some distance.

1] You should scroll back to your previous post for the obvious answer to that.

2] The OF game has the same influence on Scotland as a Liverpool v Everton game has in England. It's just another game that, outside of the city, has very little or a passing interest.


Can't understand how so many English footy fans on here seem to be so obsessed with the Scottish game.

We are doing fine thanks, clubs, fans, stadiums and interest in the game is on a upwardly sustainable trend.

 

[HughJars]

Well I guess it didn’t take long for the thread to degenerate into the “Sevco” nonsense

I constantly check the league table and the results and in the UEFA website and then the European draws and I’m still to see this team appear called Sevco - I do see Glasgow Rangers there though - so maybe time to stop all the nonsense at least on here

I can 100% guarantee you dont

 

[HughJars]

1) I didnt know "other" attendences increased.... why was that?

The league and cups became very competitive, with Celtic hoarding their cash after the liquidation of Rangers, they slipped back to the pack before Rodgers arrival. It was all very exciting again. :cheers:

 

[Deleted member 16999]

1] Can't understand how so many English footy fans on here seem to be so obsessed with the Scottish game.

We are doing fine thanks, clubs, fans, stadiums and interest in the game is on a upwardly sustainable trend.

Probably no different to some of you piping up on the PL or World Cup threads.
Some of us enjoy football for the game itself and are quite capable of watching it as a nuetral, regardless of teams or the country it’s played in.

 

[Grant85]

Sadly looks like another easy win for Celtic this season.

Aberdeen have done very well to be so consistent over the past few years and finish 2nd. Would be surprised if they manage this again.

Rangers certainly look improved, but ultimately do not have the players to challenge Celtic. They also don't have the money and this would be a bigger concern for Rangers fans. The fact they are starting the season with Morelos as their best centre forward tells you all you need to know. 2 points dropped already and Gerard will find out quickly that you can't afford to do that as even with a good second place, people will not be happy.

Interesting to see what Hearts do. Levein gets plenty of criticism, but he's no mug and has a lot of decent young players.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I can 100% guarantee you dont

Apologies just “Rangers FC” - certainly no “Sevco”

Rangers had financial issues , they were punished and then worked their way back up whilst also boosting clubs on their way up through the leagues

Rangers have no doubt also helped the finances of the clubs below the Scottish Prem

All the stuff against them right now seems born of bitterness

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Sadly looks like another easy win for Celtic this season.

Aberdeen have done very well to be so consistent over the past few years and finish 2nd. Would be surprised if they manage this again.

Rangers certainly look improved, but ultimately do not have the players to challenge Celtic. They also don't have the money and this would be a bigger concern for Rangers fans. The fact they are starting the season with Morelos as their best centre forward tells you all you need to know. 2 points dropped already and Gerard will find out quickly that you can't afford to do that as even with a good second place, people will not be happy.

Interesting to see what Hearts do. Levein gets plenty of criticism, but he's no mug and has a lot of decent young players.

I think Edinburgh Hibs will be the surprise packet....Lennon is some manager when he gets the bit between his teeth.

Hearts fans already saying that the next game against Celtic will be a title decider...…….'oh the banter'.

 

[IanM]

Can't understand how so many English footy fans on here seem to be so obsessed with the Scottish game.

We are doing fine thanks, clubs, fans, stadiums and interest in the game is on a upwardly sustainable trend.

Not sure how particaption is discussion could be labelled "obsession?" If it was ignored, presumably you'd call it "English arrogance?"

I guess "doing fine" depends on your definition.

 

[Slab]

Apologies just “Rangers FC” - certainly no “Sevco”

Rangers had financial issues , they were punished and then worked their way back up whilst also boosting clubs on their way up through the leagues

Rangers have no doubt also helped the finances of the clubs below the Scottish Prem

All the stuff against them right now seems born of bitterness

Just to point out they weren't 'punished & then worked their way back up'. They went into liquidation and the football club needed to apply to join the league and were accepted and worked their way up over several years. No relegation, no demotion, no punishment

(and its mostly their failure to accept this due process happening to them that can easily lead to opinions you might mistake for bitterness)

 

[casuk]

Apologies just “Rangers FC” - certainly no “Sevco”

Rangers had financial issues , they were punished and then worked their way back up whilst also boosting clubs on their way up through the leagues

Rangers have no doubt also helped the finances of the clubs below the Scottish Prem

All the stuff against them right now seems born of bitterness

Rangers actually went into liquidation they were not punished they had to start again as a newco and bought the assets ie Ibrox, Murray park for 5.5m, a new company called sevco 588 was set up for transfare of assets then changed to sevco then to the rangers international football club and started in the third division even though they didn't meet the criteria hence the secretive 5 way agreement, yes they put some money into the part time leagues they were involved, and also ripped off every member involved in Scottish football for over 12 years
Its not bitterness it was fraud that no one has been held responsible for

 

[Pin-seeker]

Gerrard’s only been in the job 2mins & he thinks the worlds against em.
Poor us 🙈

 

[AMcC]

With you on Ayr United, they are on a right roll. Hope they don't sell Shankland.

Apparently on his way to Dundee

 

[Val]

Apparently on his way to Dundee

Would be a bargain for Dundee and a sore loss for Ayr

 

[Val]

I think it’s ten English Clubs that have qualified for the CL .......

.......... Think all the others have made it into the KO stages from the group stages

Taking all historical stats aside, here is a real stat that is absolutely shock for the so called "champions" league........

........apparently, 21 of the 26 automatic qualifiers come from just 6 leagues.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Taking all historical stats aside, here is a real stat that is absolutely shock for the so called "champions" league........

........apparently, 21 of the 26 automatic qualifiers come from just 6 leagues.

The clubs are the ones with the control unfortunately- the changes in the CL always stem from the big clubs because the threat is always there for the breakaway European league and the money going with them - and I suspect it’s only going to get worse - the telly companies pay the money to show the big clubs because people especially in the Far East only want to see the likes of Barcelona play Bayern etc - they don’t care about Maribor against ludogrets

 

[Val]

Apologies just “Rangers FC” - certainly no “Sevco”

Rangers had financial issues , they were punished and then worked their way back up whilst also boosting clubs on their way up through the leagues

Rangers have no doubt also helped the finances of the clubs below the Scottish Prem

All the stuff against them right now seems born of bitterness

Phil, dont be dragged into the hype spouted by some Rangers fans.

They weren't punished, if anything the league did them a favour and let them back in at the bottom, something they didnt do for Airdrie when they went bust and re-formed as a newco.

There is no bitterness towards Rangers, in fact there is more bitterness from a section of the Rangers support about their perceived unfair treatment.

Lets move away from this subject and focus on results etc, the Rangers thing has been done to death everywhere and needs to just die ................... a bit like..... never mind

 

[Val]

The clubs are the ones with the control unfortunately- the changes in the CL always stem from the big clubs because the threat is always there for the breakaway European league and the money going with them - and I suspect it’s only going to get worse - the telly companies pay the money to show the big clubs because people especially in the Far East only want to see the likes of Barcelona play Bayern etc - they don’t care about Maribor against ludogrets

It's already changed, past Champions Cup winners (Ajax who are 4 times winners and Celtic) are being punished because of the perceived lack of viewing figures which in turn is starving them from much needed revenue in comparison to those more populated nations who have rich TV deals anyway.

Champions League my arse, best changing it to the big nations league with additions.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Taking all historical stats aside, here is a real stat that is absolutely shock for the so called "champions" league........

........apparently, 21 of the 26 automatic qualifiers come from just 6 leagues.

That's shocking.

Something needs to be done to make things more skill led and less money driven.
Fair play seems to have gone right oot the windae.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

That's shocking.

Something needs to be done to make things more skill led and less money driven.
Fair play seems to have gone right oot the windae.

Skill led ?! What exactly does that mean

If by skill led you mean the best players then that’s no different than the current situation because the best players are already on the whole at the biggest clubs

The “qualifiers” are determined by the co efficient which comes from the sustained success over the years - the more success a club gets from a successful country then they will automatically go to the group stages

https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html#/yr/2018

So how are you going to change it and what does “fair play” mean in the sense you are talking about

 

[Jacko_G]

Would be a bargain for Dundee and a sore loss for Ayr

Couldn't cut it at Aberdeen and put on the beef, got punted, went to St Mirren, from St Mirren he got dropped due to his attitude, Morton then punted him after a loan spell, where again he couldn't cut it.

He's at a level where he's comfortable, can't see him hitting double figures for Dundee.