Foxholer
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Is there actually anything other than hot air in that message? If it's the 'signed vow' that I saw, then it's all just political faff!
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Is there actually anything other than hot air in that message? If it's the 'signed vow' that I saw, then it's all just political faff!
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I heard on the news while driving to work today that Mr Salmond is promising more jobs should a YES prevail.
How can he make guarantees like this when the entire running of the YES campaign has been so vague on ALL the key issues.
He can't guarantee what currency will be used, but he can guarantee jobs
It's been asked what jobs he is creating but no answer to clarify what the jobs are
Found a few of the new jobs
And paid using these
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Adi2Dassler
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Hopefully.But that's another debate!
Anyway, I've been away for a few days, what did i miss?
Birchy
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I heard on the news while driving to work today that Mr Salmond is promising more jobs should a YES prevail.
How can he make guarantees like this when the entire running of the YES campaign has been so vague on ALL the key issues.
He can't guarantee what currency will be used, but he can guarantee jobs
Good point. Yet there is only one side playing games? :rofl:
CheltenhamHacker
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Oh Adi.
What a ridiculous poster. Even if it is mostly true, which I do doubt, then it comes across as so ridiculous and biased that it's laughable.
You've not missed much. That's probably because YES still haven't actually said anything of note, yet. They've said quite a few times they don't like how things are presented, but that's about it
Oh, and Dodger and LP are now best friends and considering eloping to Scotland.
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
Oh Adi.
What a ridiculous poster. Even if it is mostly true, which I do doubt, then it comes across as so ridiculous and biased that it's laughable.
You've not missed much. That's probably because YES still haven't actually said anything of note, yet. They've said quite a few times they don't like how things are presented, but that's about it
Oh, and Dodger and LP are now best friends and considering eloping to Scotland.
Thought you'd like it! I think there is a basis for a reasonable argument in there, it's just framed incorrectly..
WAs down in Kirkcudbrightshire and it's quite amazing how many landowners down that way have erected massive NoThanks signs in their fields.I explained to my son that that one farmer, with all this land,has the same vote as the guy living in a council house in Castle Douglas.
The eternal beauty of democracy, which I think us Scots have shown the world we're participating in quite perfectly.I love it.
Foxholer
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Fair amount of bull in that flyer!
Certainly agree with a couple of points - that's the way the Barnett formula works. But none of those CapEx projects actually cost Scotland. And the Civil List hasn't existed for years!
FairwayDodger
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Some truth there but, no, not perfectly at all.
A complete lack of debate on the yes side (see the link I posted this morning) where any dissent is stifled. Aggressive barracking and vilification of anyone speaking up for "no" and paranoid delusions of bias whenever the media report something that doesn't fit with the "cult of yes" propaganda.
On the other hand, outside of the official campaigns, you are correct we are all engaged and discussing the issues.... with varying degrees of intelligence, knowledge and insight.
hahahaha! lets ignore the facts and put up a cartoon with lies on it...........for the gullible
I am seriously very worried for Scotland if these blind sheep get to power. My Snr SNP 'insider' (remember him) is saying that it's say anything to get the YES they covet then deal with it all afterwards (politically) when there is NO TURNING BACK! GOD Help us!
Adi2Dassler
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Just read it, quite interesting.I think he was always a No Thanks voter and was never convinced by yes anyway.He does raise a few reasonable points, but I think I've offered reasonable solutions to pretty much anything he asks...if you missed them, ask away and I'll attempt to try.
CheltenhamHacker
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Adi, why could you have not stood for YES instead of Salmond? I feel like you actually think about things and what you want to happen! The whole debate might have gone completely differently.
well put FD, you are more stateswoman in your posts than I. I'm very worried and dismayed about the blind following YES have, from schoolkids to the man on the street repeating Salmond about a 'fairer and better society' but none of them incl Salmond has one iota of substance to back it up.
As one tweeted yesterday "It will be wonderful and everything in Scotland will be better and we'll all be farting rainbows"
I may wake up on Friday and my right to be BRITISH has been taken away! NO one has the right to do that to me.
One Planer
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Can I ask, yet another question.
We know the vote is September 18th.
Can I ask when was the referendum originally instigated an the question of independence posed?
We know the vote is September 18th.
Can I ask when was the referendum originally instigated an the question of independence posed?
Adi2Dassler
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Britian is an island, unless you move or fracking is really bad, you'll always be British
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But he will no longer have a British Passport and his nationality will no longer be British.
He will be Scottish and Scottish only with a new as yet determined passport.
FairwayDodger
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I have an image of the yes campaign allocating "independence experts" to win hearts and minds one ill-informed internet forum a time. Adi is just lucky he got us.....
SwingsitlikeHogan
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So you agree it is a cynical and disrespectful ploy - hallelujah!
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It's politics - it happens from both sides of the fence - are you really surprised ?
FairwayDodger
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Many of your postings on this thread have been rather strange, some indecipherable in fact.
Are you suggesting that the no side shouldn't be campaigning at this stage? I really can't understand what the problem is.
