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If Hodgson had been given the money that Rogers has spent I somehow think you would be higher up the league.
Where are you now?
If Hodgson had been given the money that Rogers has spent I somehow think you would be higher up the league.
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No he wouldn't
Hodgson plays one brand of football and it works at certain clubs - he had one of the best strikers in the world at his disposal and didn't have a clue what to do with him
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Based on what? Don't forget he signed Christian Poulsen and Paul konchesky :rofl:
There's no evidence to suggest he would've turned it around at the time, it was the correct decision to get rid of him. There was no signs of anything positive that you could say at least we're doing this well or that well etc.
He was a disaster, his tactics where shocking and his comments after we'd been beaten by Everton comfortably in the Derby and I directly quote" that's our best performance since I came here" summed him up. We'd made Everton look like Barcelona that day, we were shocking.
He done a good job at Fulham and West Brom and he's qualified for 2 tournaments with England but both campaigns have been awful and he/they should've done better.
Anyway , I've said my final piece on this subject my head's hurting too much....
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Thinking back I thought Chelsea ruined him but it was defo Mr Hodgson that done the damage
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Couple of points about your current Manager,
Rodgers broke Hodgson's record of the worst start to a league season in 50 years. He also broke the unbeaten home record against West Ham last weekend. Rodgers has also overseen our worst performance in the Champions League group stage.
Come back Roy, all is forgiven:rofl:
Fun fact: When last season, Brendan Rodgers broke Roy Hodgson's record of the worst League start for Liverpool in over 50 years. Hodgson however didn't have the luxury of spending £250mil !!
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With the creative force of Poulsen behind him and Konchesky lumping balls to him Torres was expected to play a totally different way than what was natural to him
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But did he ever use the words "outstanding" & "great character" after a shocking performance?
Surely Brenda is top of the pile when it comes to making bad signings at Liverpool football club.
And what were the results before he arrived? I understand the desire that any club and its a fans have, especially a club like Liverpool, but they were going through a pretty mediocre time, for them.
Let's be honest, he wasn't wanted by the fans nor the players and, like Moyes, he was on a hiding right from the outset. And I'm not surprised by some of responses, as he was being pilloried by the local press and the terraces.
He had a proven track record before he went, and has proven himself since. Liverpool's loss.
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Before him Rafa had his one bad season and fell out with owners - he should never have left IMO but even then Hodgson was the wrong choice
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The truth is that he wasn't given time so we will never know.
Fergy seemed mediocre in his early years at Utd and the rest is history.
Fergy seemed mediocre in his early years at Utd and the rest is history.
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Ferguson at least had a track record worthy of giving time
Major lol!
Seriously, Google him.
Have a look who he's managed and what they achieved whilst he was in charge. What position was Inter in when he took over, and what did he achieve with them? What position was Blackburn in and where did they finish? What did he achieve at Fulham? Copenhagen and Udinese? What did he achieve with Switzerland? And the best record with England since Venables??
Granted, he's as dour and as exciting to listen to as a wet dish cloth, but no track record?!? Seriously?? His record was way better than Fergie's when he arrived from Aberdeen.
Read his CV. Liverpool aquired one of the best managers in the world, and blew it big time - all because he didn't fit the supposed Liverpool mould. King Kenny, who didn't get the job when he was everyone's favourite apart from the board's, was touted for the job as Hodgson was arriving at the club. And neither the Liverpool Echo nor the fans, nor some of those in the background at the club never gave Hodgson a fair crack.
No track record? You're having a laugh!
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Major lol!
Seriously, Google him.
Have a look who he's managed and what they achieved whilst he was in charge. What position was Inter in when he took over, and what did he achieve with them? What position was Blackburn in and where did they finish? What did he achieve at Fulham? Copenhagen and Udinese? What did he achieve with Switzerland? And the best record with England since Venables??
Granted, he's as dour and as exciting to listen to as a wet dish cloth, but no track record?!? Seriously?? His record was way better than Fergie's when he arrived from Aberdeen.
Read his CV. Liverpool aquired one of the best managers in the world, and blew it big time - all because he didn't fit the supposed Liverpool mould. King Kenny, who didn't get the job when he was everyone's favourite apart from the board's, was touted for the job as Hodgson was arriving at the club. And neither the Liverpool Echo nor the fans, nor some of those in the background at the club never gave Hodgson a fair crack.
No track record? You're having a laugh!
Major competitions won = zero
Doing well at bottom half of the table clubs = yes
Ferguson won a major European comp with Aberdeen - something Hodgson failed to do as well as two league titles in Scotland when they had a very strong league
Hodgson is perfect for England - manages to qualify them then disappoint - he was shocking for us his track record pointed to him not being good enough but for a club with higher ambitions
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Started this thread for Stu as a bit of fun, however, what comes across is Phil and Stu really don't like him, I get that, not every supporter at every club likes the manager, but I really don't think Hodgson is that bad, he was beaten on penalties in the UEFA Final, got Switzerland to No3 in the World and took Fulham to a European Final, would Fergie/Jose/Wenger etc have done that, he's took England to 2 Finals, 1 was abject failure and hopefully he's learnt, give him a chance at the Euro's who knows?
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Correct I don't, I'd also like to think my criticism of him at Liverpool is justified. I watched his dross he served up and listened to the rubbish he came out with, it was painful.
Like I said earlier, there was no sign of improvement anywhere from him and his tactics/team selections. Usually under a new manager you start to see things changing but under him there was nothing. A high % of match going reds actually gave him a chance, they turned on him around December that year.
He's getting paid very handsomely by the FA so if his team fails in the big competitions fans are entitled to question him.
In the 2012 Euros he deserved a "bye" but after the WC performances he should've been out on his ear. That World Cup was embarrassing, he got a new contract for failure.
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As a Blue it was great to see him take you's down the road he did, defo should've stayed😜 He had to go.
I think the England situation is slightly different in that you're correct the WC was embarassing, but if we'd of knee jerked and got rid of him the new one couldn't of done any better, Roy has a 100% record in qualifying, the opposition is immaterial, you can only play the teams drawn in your group, qualified with games to spare, so personally he has my 100% support and if we crash and burn, sack him.
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Italy failed and got rid of their manager, others did too yet the FA gave him an improved contract. Madness. That WC group wasn't that hard really was it, they had the best training base they could've had, extra time to prepare etc and still failed miserably.
Italy and Uruaguay were both above us in the rankings at the time I believe?
we also were u fortunate that Suarez got such a fortunate assist. Not to mention the refs lack of fair treatment to our players.
I expect england to be managed by an Englishmen and can't think of any better atm.
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Rankings mean nothing, aren't Wales ranked 3rd in the world at the moment?
Pardew?? Curbishley/Big Sam
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