Reducing carbon emissions

[Jimaroid]

Obviously he would take a lot longer to break even if he went solar but right now he said 4 years for the sst up

He's outlaid £6K. His plan is if (when) prices go up he'll need to outlay another £8K (my estimate for a 6kW PV installation) to recoup.

A quick calculation of a 6kW solar system for a lifetime of 25 years reveals a net benefit of £3,700.

He's spent £14,000 and "saved" £3,700

Oh dear!

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Well I'd say £5,750 is nearer £6k than £5k, so not just over £5k.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110108342614?model=Leaf&sort=price-asc&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&radius=1500&year-to=2021&make=Nissan&postcode=br51az&page=1

Whilst a Leaf may be affordable, is it practical? I can't see me getting anything close to what I've currently got in terms of space & ability without spending considerably more or buying an older model with higher mileage & the risk of more issues and a Leaf won't cut it for a lot of people, me included.

Sorry. The way you were going on about the price of a Corsa earlier made me think you were interested in this class of car.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

He's outlaid £6K. His plan is if (when) prices go up he'll need to outlay another £8K (my estimate for a 6kW PV installation) to recoup.

A quick calculation of a 6kW solar system for a lifetime of 25 years reveals a net benefit of £3,700.

He's spent £14,000 and "saved" £3,700

Oh dear!

Only if they go extreme up tho , for a while they will remain low to mid

Also what's to stop him buying it himself and doing so? In all seriousness.. I wouldn't I'd paid someone but anyone good with electrics could do that work themsleves

That and won't prices drop over time no?

Right now he charges his 30kw battery at 5p

That's £1.50 a night

If he uses it all during the day so that assumes 30 usage and the current day rate is 14p for his tariff that's a £2.70 a day saving (if he was to use all 30 but he does charge the car so that is possible) that's a £985 a year current saving

When prices for him go to 24p during day that's a £2000 a year saving

So ATM sorry 6 years to break even

But when prices rise it will be sooner


That's a heck of a saving no?

However it's only if you do yourself

If I go do same to telsa that will take me 15 years to break even at the £1000 a year

 

[bobmac]

He's outlaid £6K. His plan is if (when) prices go up he'll need to outlay another £8K (my estimate for a 6kW PV installation) to recoup.

How many solar panels is that?

 

[GreiginFife]

How many solar panels is that?

Would it not depend on the type and yield of the panel.

I had a quote last week for an idea I had to make my garage "off grid" and utilise it's large flat roof area and for a 6Kw system is was 21 panels at c.285W each panel. Total cost was around £3000 for the panels and then another £2000 for install. But they had panels all the way from 150W up to 400W.

 

[Jimaroid]

Would it not depend on the type and yield of the panel.

I had a quote last week for an idea I had to make my garage "off grid" and utilise it's large flat roof area and for a 6Kw system is was 21 panels at c.285W each panel. Total cost was around £3000 for the panels and then another £2000 for install. But they had panels all the way from 150W up to 400W.

Yup, I was looking at 340W panels and I was looking at around 20 panels panels for my pitched roof.

 

[bobmac]

Yup, I was looking at 340W panels and I was looking at around 20 panels panels for my pitched roof.

Must be a big house

 

[GreiginFife]

Yup, I was looking at 340W panels and I was looking at around 20 panels panels for my pitched roof.

340W must be quite big. Is that the Poly-cristalline type? The 285W ones I was looking at were about 1.5m tall each. I should point out that the £2k installation cost was an option to have the little triangular frames fitted to "pitch" the panels on an angle. The other option was £1200 and that was just batons and panels fixed flat.

I just need to work out if all the machinery would work off of the system (table saw is 3Kw and the mitre saw 2.2Kw but all on relatively low runtimes). Guy that came out wasn't sure as he doesn't get many mad-men asking to PV their garages

 

[SteveJay]

Model S isn't too bad. Model 3 though

Still much better than a bloody Leaf though

 

[Jimaroid]

340W must be quite big. Is that the Poly-cristalline type?

I was looking at Monocrystalline. We have a large pitch roof and a flat garage roof to install on. It was a couple of years ago now but I gave up as I couldn't see how it was worth it and wasn't helped by the fact we don't got enough sunlight due to the position of the house on the side of a hill, trees etc.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Sorry. The way you were going on about the price of a Corsa earlier made me think you were interested in this class of car.

Only quoted the Corsa earlier because someone else had raised it as an example of the price difference so I looked up the finance on it. Choice would be a mid to large estate for what I need of a car; Octavia, Leon ST, that sort of thing. As far as I’m aware there’s not that many about and they haven’t dropped sufficiently to make a change viable on that size of vehicle, but happy to shown otherwise if you are aware of any. ?

 

[williamalex1]

Looks like the Scottish government are not going to allow the new north sea Campbell oil field to produce the estimated 9 million barrels of oil .
But in the meantime we'll still have to import oil from abroad.

 

[Fade and Die]

Looks like the Scottish government are not going to allow the new north sea Campbell oil field to produce the estimated 9 million barrels of oil .
But in the meantime we'll still have to import oil from abroad.

That's what happens when you are in bed with the Greens I'm afraid.

 

[williamalex1]

That's what happens when you are in bed with the Greens I'm afraid.

Nothing Green about me, more of a blue planet man

 

[Swinglowandslow]

I think it’s only a matter of time before electricity is taxed in the same way petrol is. Whether that’s time related (so those cheaper night time units are gone) or just a basic flat rate increase on it all, it has to so the Govt can make up for the lost revenue from petrol and derv and the increasing use of electric powered non 4 wheel transport that’s becoming popular now.

I also see the latest trend is “cable snatching” . I’ve come across 4 people in the last fortnight who have had their charging cable taken or damaged.

Re last para. Wondered when ( not if) that would happen. That is why lamppost adaption for street charging was never a good idea.
The morons would soon amuse themselves messing up such charging scenarios. Obvious.
When the battery (s) can be taken indoors to charge, then EVs will take off.
Being in the not immediate future,car prices will have come down too.

 

[williamalex1]

Re last para. Wondered when ( not if) that would happen. That is why lamppost adaption for street charging was never a good idea.
The morons would soon amuse themselves messing up such charging scenarios. Obvious.
When the battery (s) can be taken indoors to charge, then EVs will take off.
Being in the not immediate future,car prices will have come down too.

Surely someone will invent pop up or overhead or WIFI chargers

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Surely someone will invent pop up or overhead or WIFI chargers

Toyota will be entering the ev market soon in UK ..

Their car has an optional extra of solar panels built into the roof ...

No good if you park underground but it's a step in the right direction

All that wasted energy hitting the roof over the day

 

[clubchamp98]

I think the fairest way would be a charge per mile, so when you get your car serviced or MOTd, they note the mileage and send you the bill

They can’t even get the tech right for Smart Motorways.
So just can’t see this pay per mile working unless it’s toll booths like in the USA.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

They can’t even get the tech right for Smart Motorways.
So just can’t see this pay per mile working unless it’s toll booths like in the USA.

GPS and Biometrics. Easy peasy.

It could already be done with mobile phones.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

GPS and Biometrics. Easy peasy.

It could already be done with mobile phones.

My car has a sim

U can turn heating on remotely

Now that sim connects it to the servers , which tell vauxhall it's milage etc

Would be so simple to share this data with the gov

Now people have said smart metres by charge you use for car etc .. nah sod that the capability is there already they just need to turn it on