rulefan
Tour Winner
The player should politely tell the other player that giving advice is subject to a 2 stroke penalty and also tell his marker.
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chrisd
Major Champion
I mentioned the taking of advice more in relation to Mashley's post as he indicated that the advice was taken, and that the player changed his shot choice. I do agree a player shouldn't be penalised just because he heard advice
virtuocity
Tour Winner
How many times a season do you think you pull up a FC on a rules breach?
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
He's not penalised for acting on it either; although in an on going situation he should ask the Muppet to shut up (politely, and probably via a penalty if it's that clear cut - and let's not get into the nuances and grey areas for another 20 pages!)
chrisd
Major Champion
Can I just clarify, is he only penalised if he asks for advice?
Colin L
Tour Winner
.... or gives advice, yes.
Simbo
Tour Rookie
Jeez, I bet some of you guys a proper good fun for a round of golf with.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Do you really enjoy a game when you know all the others are ignoring the rules?
Do you ignore all or some of them? Do you all ignore the same ones or is a personal choice?
Simbo
Tour Rookie
It’s a personal choice, if someone drops a ball down their trouser leg or tries to have a dodgy drop or something, yeah I’m going to say something. If im in a 3 ball with a complete newcomer, who’s nervous as anything, playing his first medal, slashing the ball all over the place and the other guy playing with us says to him “keep calm mate†“think about this shot a bit more†then yeah I’m going to let it slide. We play for fun, maybe a couple quid and a trophy worth a tenner.
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atticusfinch
Challenge Tour Pro
Precisely what I meant in my post. I did not intend to imply that a person should pass a USGA rules seminar before playing a round. :ears:
atticusfinch
Challenge Tour Pro
The most fun I ever had playing is when my opponent and I agreed to play by "strict rules of golf" (a'la goldfinger). The added pressure infused us with adrenalin....most enjoyable round I played.
atticusfinch
Challenge Tour Pro
I'd say never. "Cheating" requires intentionally breaching rules.
rulie
Head Pro
And not recording the appropriate penalty.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Crap. I played with a guy off 14 once, who thought that only yellow staked water hazards were a penalty, a red staked (lateral) hazard meant a free drop!
He must have been playing for some time to have got down to 14, so I wonder how many competitions he had won where he had signed for an incorrect score, and I can't believe he hadn't been pulled up on it before (unless his playing partners over all those years were as thick as him).
And it's okay saying "maybe he plays a course which doesn't have any lateral water hazards" but I can't believe he has only ever played the one course for all those years.
There are some tossers around.
chrisd
Major Champion
I knew of a guy at my first club who would enter a comp with his mate, they'd play 9 holes but if they had played badly would tear the card up and start again. They didn't know the rule on this - he won several comps on the way to a lower handicap and, I guess eventually a better grasp of the rules.
But was he a cheat?
Colin L
Tour Winner
Certainly a mega-chancer. 
I guess, however, you cannot cheat through ignorance.
I guess, however, you cannot cheat through ignorance.
chrisd
Major Champion
I don't disagree but maybe an official handicap should include a simple rules test like the written driving test does
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
How simple?
This is of course the way the EGA operate and for the most part it seems to work very well.
We offer an introduction to the rules as part of our getting started/getting a handicap package but, bluntly, even a very simple rules basis is a lot to carry round with you - and the chances are that someone who's played for decades will be are round to 'correct' you anyway.
D
Deleted member 15344
Guest
Sorry but the last thing Golf needs is some sort of requirement or exam of the rules before playing - it’s got a bad enough reputation as it is and is struggling to attract people to the game without introducing something like that
And as for the comment about “not knowing the rule before taking up the game “ - couldn’t get anymore ridiculous
I didn’t know a lot of the rules before taking up the game and I learnt as I played the game - we are supposed to be finding ways to get more people into the game not putting up barriers
What it does highlight is that there are Sports fans and there are rules fans
And as for the comment about “not knowing the rule before taking up the game “ - couldn’t get anymore ridiculous
I didn’t know a lot of the rules before taking up the game and I learnt as I played the game - we are supposed to be finding ways to get more people into the game not putting up barriers
What it does highlight is that there are Sports fans and there are rules fans
rulie
Head Pro
And very, very many who are both. It's not an either/or.
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