Rangers

[chris661]

Who are this Airdrie you talk of, they disappeared 10 years after Murray called the administrators in on them.

Was that not for thirty grand?

 

[Val]

Was that not for thirty grand?

At most! Do you think the fans of the team previously known as Clydebank want The Rangers in the SFL after what they were put through?

 

[smange]

I've read the main jist of this thread and the likely outcome for Rangers.

I will just give a comparison as to what happened to our local 'non-league, semi-professional team'. Nuneaton Borough as was lived beyond their means, a local businessman was seen as the saviour - of course he wanted to look at the books etc and to cut a long story short there was no way he was going to take on the debts and the only option left was liquidation - familiar I think.

He then bought the remaining assets which I believe is what has happened/is happening at Rangers. The club was told by the local FA that they could reform at a level 2 divisions below where they were and not allowed to use Borough in the new name (from being in Conference North to Southern League Midland division). Consequently this was the outcome and the club that should have been relegated from Conference North was reprieved - now I don't see that as being much different to Rangers Newco being allowed into Division 3.

A lot of the players showed loyalty to the club and remained with them under revised contracts and now after 3 promotions in 4 years as Nuneaton Town they are in Conference Premier. For the fans there was the pain of visiting some places that were not much more than council pitches with a barrier but having a club to support was the most important thing. I have no allegiance at all in this but to say a club should disappear completely I find vindictive.

I know very little of the Nuneaton Borough situation but what I can bet is that their supporters didnt spend many years subjecting fans of other teams and in fact the general public to utterly disgusting sectarian singing, chanting and abuse. Not to mention their support of terrorist organisations who have murdered innocent people. All of which the club and its representatives have denied even when presented with video evidence.

Yes I know the other half of the Old Firm are just as bad and trust me most football fans in Scotland wouldnt be too sorry to see the back of them either.

Being happy to see the back of Rangers by most people isnt vindictive, its hoping to to see the start of the end for sectarianism and bigotry in our game.

By the way im a Dunfermline supporter and have been in the curious position, only available to non Old Firm fans, to have been called a fenian b.... one week to being called an orange b....... the following week.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Celtic will not suffer the most, Celtic can take a hit of a few million a season easily, St Mirren with a turnover of £3.5m is a different story not to mention clubs with debt.

Celtic will recover any loss with savings on policeing costs.
I would imagine Glasgow City Council accountants are dancing in the streets.

 

[Iaing]

I see that's more players walking away including ex club captain Steven Davis.
Also, the SFA have given the newco until Friday to provide the formal documentation to support their application for membership of the SFA ( without which the newco ain't playing at all ).
The documentation should provide the identities of the mysterious people behind Mr. Green along with disclosure of fit and proper status of said persons. I hope the SFA take plenty of time to check these people out this time.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

At this moment Green is paying the wages of players, Naysmith is on £15k a WEEK, many don't earn that a YEAR.
With the fans of newco not buying season tickets he has no obvious cash coming in.
I think we are starting to look at Admin Two.

 

[Val]

At this moment Green is paying the wages of players, Naysmith is on £15k a WEEK, many don't earn that a YEAR.
With the fans of newco not buying season tickets he has no obvious cash coming in.
I think we are starting to look at Admin Two.

He hasn't payed any of them yet, today is a crucial day in The Rangers future. Players turning up today technically are deemed to transfer to newco and will expect payment, players not turning up will be viewed as not willing to transfer and not eligible for salary.

Interesting day today, it's like Eastenders :rofl:

 

[Liverbirdie]

He hasn't payed any of them yet, today is a crucial day in The Rangers future. Players turning up today technically are deemed to transfer to newco and will expect payment, players not turning up will be viewed as not willing to transfer and not eligible for salary.

Interesting day today, it's like Eastenders :rofl:

More like crossroads.

 

[thecraw]

Celtic will not suffer the most, Celtic can take a hit of a few million a season easily, St Mirren with a turnover of £3.5m is a different story not to mention clubs with debt.

Sorry mate but take of these green and white hooped glasses for a while.

Celtic need the Sky revenue from Old Farm games. Celtic need the rivalry of the Old Farm. Celtic need the blue half to keep their fans interested.

After a few seasons of having the league sewn up by Xmas the fans will start to get bored, the income will drop, the revenue will fall, the much inflated wage structure that Celtic enjoy over the rest of the SPHELL will have to reduce.

Celtic will feel the pinch worse than the rest. % wise they're income will be hit more.

Aberdeen for instance have had a "huge" increase in season ticket demand in the last two days since voting NO to Newco. Probably means 3 new enquiries!

:lol:

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I heard that the were going to re-instate the Glasgow Cup with the final being played over five legs!!

 

[thecraw]

I heard that the were going to re-instate the Glasgow Cup with the final being played over five legs!!

I think Partick Thistle fans would get bored after 2 games although it would give Celtic yet another chance to roll out and milk the Lisbon Lions crap!

 

[FairwayDodger]

Was that not for thirty grand?

At most! Do you think the fans of the team previously known as Clydebank want The Rangers in the SFL after what they were put through?

A quick google reveals Airdrie went bust with debts of over £3 million; some of it to Rangers, yes.

For those that don't know, when Airdrie United restarted as a newco they bought out Clydebank FC and transferred the registration into their name; reviving their club but killing Clydebank.

Are you seriously saying the villains in that tale were Rangers?

EDIT: Closer reading shows that SDM got an interdict to arrest some of Airdrie's cash for a debt owed to one of his other​ companies. So even more tenuous to blame Rangers.

 

[thecraw]

A quick google reveals Airdrie went bust with debts of over £3 million; some of it to Rangers, yes.

For those that don't know, when Airdrie United restarted as a newco they bought out Clydebank FC and transferred the registration into their name; reviving their club but killing Clydebank.

Are you seriously saying the villains in that tale were Rangers?

I heard that it was a Rangers fan that started the great fire of London!

I was also told that the iceberg that sank the Titanic had a Rangers crest on it!

 

[FairwayDodger]

I heard that it was a Rangers fan that started the great fire of London!

I was also told that the iceberg that sank the Titanic had a Rangers crest on it!

Craw, it's really starting to feel like that.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

It is a shame that the clubs who tried to reach the SPL's 10,000 all seater stadium targets seem to have been hamstrung with the debt.
Airdrie, Livingstone and Falkirk. They were all doing OK with thier old stadiums but now due to the financial problems the fan base has more or less drifted away.
What Elvis is doing at Falkirk is fabulous, that is what I would watch in the brave new world.

 

[FairwayDodger]

It is a shame that the clubs who tried to reach the SPL's 10,000 all seater stadium targets seem to have been hamstrung with the debt.
Airdrie, Livingstone and Falkirk. They were all doing OK with thier old stadiums but now due to the financial problems the fan base has more or less drifted away.
What Elvis is doing at Falkirk is fabulous, that is what I would watch in the brave new world.

Yes, the wheels came off our game in lots of ways and we've gone into a cycle of decline - not helped by all the vested interests of the various bodies and clubs (especially, but not only, the OF) looking after no 1.

This is a great opportunity to take a step back and try and fix our game - work out how Scottish football should look and make the structural changes necessary. If the price for that is Rangers starting at the bottom level it might just be worth it.

 

[chris661]

A quick google reveals Airdrie went bust with debts of over £3 million; some of it to Rangers, yes.

For those that don't know, when Airdrie United restarted as a newco they bought out Clydebank FC and transferred the registration into their name; reviving their club but killing Clydebank.

Are you seriously saying the villains in that tale were Rangers?

EDIT: Closer reading shows that SDM got an interdict to arrest some of Airdrie's cash for a debt owed to one of his other​ companies. So even more tenuous to blame Rangers.

Don't think anyone was blaming rangers but Murray. According to him it was just business that he got the windog up order issued.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Don't think anyone was blaming rangers but Murray. According to him it was just business that he got the windog up order issued.

Sorry.... probably am getting a tad over-sensitive.

 

[Val]

A quick google reveals Airdrie went bust with debts of over £3 million; some of it to Rangers, yes.

For those that don't know, when Airdrie United restarted as a newco they bought out Clydebank FC and transferred the registration into their name; reviving their club but killing Clydebank.

Are you seriously saying the villains in that tale were Rangers?

EDIT: Closer reading shows that SDM got an interdict to arrest some of Airdrie's cash for a debt owed to one of his other​ companies. So even more tenuous to blame Rangers.

Not blaming Rangers by any means but just highlighting the Murray connection.

Lets stay with Airdrie United for a moment, are we saying what the owner of Clydebank did was wrong when he moved to Airdrie from Clydebank and in doing so doubled the fan base and rebranded his club all with the permission of the SFL?

If so what do you think of the club formerly know as Meadowbank Thistle now commonly know as Livingston who's owners moved them and rebranded them, is this really much different?

 

[Val]

Don't think anyone was blaming rangers but Murray. According to him it was just business that he got the windog up order issued.

Karma is a bitch.