DelB
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Aberdeen confirmed this morning as joining Hearts and Dundee United in going public on a 'no' vote. :thup:
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Doon frae Troon
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I am certain that Petrie said Hibs would vote no.
With Hearts, Hibs. Dundee Utd and Aberdeen all saying no it is difficult to see where The Rangers will get any votes. [Other than Killie.]
The SFA had better let the fans know which way the clubs voted or there will be blood on the carpet.
With Hearts, Hibs. Dundee Utd and Aberdeen all saying no it is difficult to see where The Rangers will get any votes. [Other than Killie.]
The SFA had better let the fans know which way the clubs voted or there will be blood on the carpet.
smange
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I think every club owes it to their own supporters to let them know which way they voted and to give a full explanation of why they voted that way.
Any club voting yes can expect a backlash from its own fans and expect a loss in season ticket sales and home attendances.
On another note can anyone please explain to me why Dundee F.C seem to be favourites to take place of Rangers in the SPL if they dont get back in? Surely it should be Dunfermline or am I missing something here due to my obvious bias towards Dunfermline.
Doon frae Troon
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Smange....quite agree with you.
It does not seem like natural justice to me. Rangers were in the same league as Dunfermline. Rangers cheated the 11 other clubs.
Dundee were also a very poor second to The Staggies.
Then....to allow cheating Old Rangers a vote on whither The Rangers with the same players and manager should be allowed to stay in the SPL whilst Dunfermline are not allowed a vote is just a total nonsense.
It does not seem like natural justice to me. Rangers were in the same league as Dunfermline. Rangers cheated the 11 other clubs.
Dundee were also a very poor second to The Staggies.
Then....to allow cheating Old Rangers a vote on whither The Rangers with the same players and manager should be allowed to stay in the SPL whilst Dunfermline are not allowed a vote is just a total nonsense.
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smange
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Thats the way I see it as well DfT
Dont quite understand why Dundee have any right to even ask for the place.
They would need to hurry up and make a definite decision either way as both Dunfermline and Dundee are preparing squads for the first division and would need some time to adjust their thinking towards an SPL squad
Dont quite understand why Dundee have any right to even ask for the place.
They would need to hurry up and make a definite decision either way as both Dunfermline and Dundee are preparing squads for the first division and would need some time to adjust their thinking towards an SPL squad
Liverbirdie
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thecraw
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Dunfermline were relegated, Dundee were 2nd in league 1, therefore they get the nod to come up.
Why we (Scottish Football) are not taking this opportunity to restructure is beyond me!
16 Top team league. Play each other home and away. 2 up, 2 down with 3rd bottom and 3rd top playing off for the final league spot in the top tier!
Why we (Scottish Football) are not taking this opportunity to restructure is beyond me!
16 Top team league. Play each other home and away. 2 up, 2 down with 3rd bottom and 3rd top playing off for the final league spot in the top tier!
Crawfy
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Scottish football ? restructure ? embrace change and move with the times ?
What have you been smoking Craw ??
More chance of flip-flops and surf-shorts becoming R&A dress-code
smange
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Got to disagree that Dundee are entitled to the place Craw. Dunfermline and the rest of the league were cheated by Rangers last season and I cant see why we shouldnt remain in the league.
Personally I dont want us to be in the SPL as im looking forward to a season of derbies and re-newing rivalries with other teams in the first division which holds far more appeal than the borefest of the SPL but I just cant understand why Dundee have any right to the place.
I agree that this is a perfect chance for restructuring the game but it will never happen. Not while people like Neil Doncaster are running the game.
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thecraw
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And Dundee also got cheated when they were in the SPHELL. The Pars got relegated, they deserve to go down in my opinion. Yes maybe I would grant you the "play off" option would be good as well but when do you propose that we play this!
smange
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Yes we deserved to go down, god knows us Pars fans know that more than anyone. We were truly awful last season and the league table doesnt lie at the end of the season.
But I cant see why Dundee have a claim. As much as we deserved to get relegated they werent good enough to get into the promotion place and in fact finished 24 ponts behind Ross County. Do you really feel that a team finishing 24 points behind the promotion place should be promoted
FairwayDodger
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Sounds like a plan Stuart.
Just back from a few days away and totally out of touch with the latest in the Rangers saga.... and can't decipher fact from fiction in this thread....
Good to see someone else trying to fight the Rangers corner though.
HughJars
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For god's sake. this is exactly the problem, their 'corner' doesn't need fighting, it needs apologising for their misdeeds from, not trying to aportion blame to everyone and everyone else, and threatening laughable sanctions from a postion of ultimate weakness.Sounds like a plan Stuart.
Just back from a few days away and totally out of touch with the latest in the Rangers saga.... and can't decipher fact from fiction in this thread....
Good to see someone else trying to fight the Rangers corner though.
FairwayDodger
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In a sense of in the forum! Sheeesh!
SS2
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If Rangers disappear to div 1 or 3 or wherever I'd vote for Dunfermline to take their place. I say this only because they were so pish last season that the mighty St Mirren were able to stop worrying about relegation and continue to play like Barcelona.
Gotta go, nurse says it's time for my medication.
Gotta go, nurse says it's time for my medication.
chris661
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Doon frae Troon
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That's funny
But St Midden did play some good stuff last season, much improved team.
But St Midden did play some good stuff last season, much improved team.
smange
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Yep we were bad but now we have got shot of McIntyre and his old pals act signing policy im hoping we can move forward again.
"Mighty St Mirren" never thought I would read those words or have you spelled mighty wrong? Shouldnt it start with Sh?
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thecraw
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St Mirren even played decent football under McPherson as well.
StuartD
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Sorry but it does. I have tried to put a case across where I think rfc are guilty. But we certainly need to defend ourselves against some of the factually incorrect garbage on here
Anyway I'll get back to sticking to facts again. Dunfermline MUST to go down. End of. The Spl rules clearly say a club will always be relegated. If need be the second placed sfl team would come up if the sfl champs ground could not meet the criteria. Thought to be better than the previous farce of maybe Down maybe not we had a good few years ago. This was voted in on an 8-4 style majority vote. Note this also puts to bed the theory on here that it is always an 11-1 vote for the Spl and a8-4 vote was invented to just to help vote in the newco
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