DCB
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C'mon gents, lets not drop off into the abyss here please. This thread has developed over time, but tonight it's been in danger of crossing the line.
Thread tidied up as a result.
Thread tidied up as a result.
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smange
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Lot of feeling around tonight on Dunfermline and other clubs forums that there is going to be a bit of backing down from the SFL clubs allowing Newco into the first division.
If this happens, regardless of how my club vote, im finished with Scottish football and I think many people will be.
Whats the point in being in a league thats so corrupt that it bends and breaks rules to allow a new club to jump straight into the second tier of a league set up?
If it happens it will bring around the death of Scottish football a lot quicker than forecast in the the bullying document sent out to SFL clubs.
If this happens, regardless of how my club vote, im finished with Scottish football and I think many people will be.
Whats the point in being in a league thats so corrupt that it bends and breaks rules to allow a new club to jump straight into the second tier of a league set up?
If it happens it will bring around the death of Scottish football a lot quicker than forecast in the the bullying document sent out to SFL clubs.
Well done,cover up Crawfords tracks after personal attacks.
It hasn't been in danger at all,not until a certain someone came on banding false accusations around.
Way out of order.
Reports that SPL club will not take the vote tomorrow now.
Can it be that the clubs who said they were voting know have now shat it and are going to about turn?
I am sure the fans of those clubs that in the interim period decided to buy their season books on the back of this will be happy?
Messy to say the least,it getting beyone a joke now,someone either have the baws to pull the trigger or just shut the game down!
Can it be that the clubs who said they were voting know have now shat it and are going to about turn?
I am sure the fans of those clubs that in the interim period decided to buy their season books on the back of this will be happy?
Messy to say the least,it getting beyone a joke now,someone either have the baws to pull the trigger or just shut the game down!
Totally agree with you Stephen. I feel exactly the same.
smange
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Seen that too Dodger, can only think they are hoping the SFL clubs will take it out of their hands so they can welcome Rangers back into the SPL whilst also being able to say that they didnt actually vote against Rangers.
Starting to look like all these guys who preached sporting integrity and fairness may actually be about to give in to out and out bullying.
Link to report- http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18699838
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest Alan. A bunch of incompetents.
smange
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One thing that stands out on that report though is the feelings of the RFFF (Rangers Fans Fighting Fund)
They have had a vote on a few issues and it makes for interesting reading, showing that even the Rangers fans feel its only right that they should start from the bottom..
"Meanwhile, the Rangers Fans Fighting Fun has claimed that a poll of supporters showed that 75% of the club's fans would rather play in Division Three than accept a compromise deal for a place in Division One.
Only 3% wanted to accept a place in Division One if it meant that sanctions were inherited as a result of the actions of the old Rangers, which is heading for liquidation.
Even a place in Division One without sanctions only received the support of 20%."
Even the RFFF feel the same as everyone else by the look of it:thup:
They have had a vote on a few issues and it makes for interesting reading, showing that even the Rangers fans feel its only right that they should start from the bottom..
"Meanwhile, the Rangers Fans Fighting Fun has claimed that a poll of supporters showed that 75% of the club's fans would rather play in Division Three than accept a compromise deal for a place in Division One.
Only 3% wanted to accept a place in Division One if it meant that sanctions were inherited as a result of the actions of the old Rangers, which is heading for liquidation.
Even a place in Division One without sanctions only received the support of 20%."
Even the RFFF feel the same as everyone else by the look of it:thup:
Sadly,when have they ever listened to the fans.
Whatever happens hopefully they will take the opportunity to re build the set up of the game and also weed out the crooks that are governing the game in Scotland....all for the good of Scottish Football.
I am not holding my breath though guys.
smange
Journeyman Pro
No chance Dodger
SPL/SFA/SFL have in last few months been shown to be corrupt and run by people only interested in their own gain.
Too many guys with fingers in too many pies within Scottish football.
Good article here http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thom...nflicts-interest-heart-scottish-football/2137 regarding conflicts of interest in Scottish football which is seemingly against the rules but have been OK'd by the powers that be, surprisingly or NOT they all involve Rangers
SPL/SFA/SFL have in last few months been shown to be corrupt and run by people only interested in their own gain.
Too many guys with fingers in too many pies within Scottish football.
Good article here http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thom...nflicts-interest-heart-scottish-football/2137 regarding conflicts of interest in Scottish football which is seemingly against the rules but have been OK'd by the powers that be, surprisingly or NOT they all involve Rangers
StuartD
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Seen a lot of reports on twitter about possibility of no vote as well. Won't kick rfc out until they are sure sfl1 plan is accepted. If spl vote is deffered tomorrow I fully expect the sfl to do the same next week
Look its simple.
SPL clubs want Rangers in SFL1.
SFL clubs will likely vote for a newco to start in SFL3.
Only way to do this is for SPL clubs to vote Rangers into SPL and then relegate them for dual contracts - unless the SFL agree to allow newco into SFL1.
SPL don't want to make up their minds until they know what SFL will do.
SFL are not going to make up their minds until they know what SPL have decided.
SPL clubs fans have made it abundantly clear that newco in SPL = GTF big time. SPL fans will also be extremely hacked off if this is used as a route to relegate them into SFL1 and there is no guarantee that SFL wouldn't take a relegated Rangers and find a reason to punt them from SFL1 to SFL3 anyway. So SPL clubs haven't currently got the balls to vote them in to the SPL (to relegate them), and haven't got the balls to vote them out either.
chris661
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I have seen a lot of chat on twitter from folk (mainly Celtic supporters) that they are finished with it now. They are handing back/cancelling there season ticket as it is becoming apparent that the game is rigged in the favour of money. Personally I cant blame them and if I was in that position I would be doing exactly the same.
Sad sad times for fitba.
Sad sad times for fitba.
bladeplayer
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Isnt it sadly Ironic that the club that died because they got caught breaking all the rules may very well be reincarnated into the 1st division , therefore the rules are being broken for them again before they even start to exist.. >?
your gone because you broke all the rules but we will break them to get you back .. sad ..
Personaly i dont care either way what happens , but its important to a lot on here , & it seem all the decent fans on both sides accept , Apply to div 3 . sure to be accepted & start properly & within the rules ..
Can totaly understand why other clubs fans would turn their back on Scottish footall if this is not the way it happens tho ..
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Look its simple.
SPL clubs want Rangers in SFL1.
SFL clubs will likely vote for a newco to start in SFL3.
Only way to do this is for SPL clubs to vote Rangers into SPL and then relegate them for dual contracts - unless the SFL agree to allow newco into SFL1.
SPL don't want to make up their minds until they know what SFL will do.
SFL are not going to make up their minds until they know what SPL have decided.
SPL clubs fans have made it abundantly clear that newco in SPL = GTF big time. SPL fans will also be extremely hacked off if this is used as a route to relegate them into SFL1 and there is no guarantee that SFL wouldn't take a relegated Rangers and find a reason to punt them from SFL1 to SFL3 anyway. So SPL clubs haven't currently got the balls to vote them in to the SPL (to relegate them), and haven't got the balls to vote them out either.
100% spot on Dodger. A collleague of mine was at the St Mirren meeting last night and Stewart Gilmour laid it on line that most clubs can cope with 1 year of no Rangers and the preffered option looks to be SFL 1 for a year.
Turnbull Hutton is correct, the game is corrupt to the core now and the fact that 1 club now has Scottish Football almost held to ransom tells you all you need to know.
Scottish Football RIP, you've been dying for years anyway.
Doon frae Troon
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Do you not think Murdoch's Sky sports are driving this agenda?
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
No, I don't think they are involved in any discussions.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Not that we know of!!
smange
Journeyman Pro
So what happens if Newco get into the 1st division and dont win promotion first time of asking?
Do we then change the rules to suit them again.
This whole saga stinks and its getting worse by the day....
Only in Scottish football could we be sitting here with a league programme about to start in 5 weeks time and we have 3 clubs at least not knowing what league they are in and one of them not even knowing if they will be in a league.
Well done SPL/SFL/SFA for making our game an even bigger laughing stock than it already was
GreiginFife
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No, they are not. And it's not Murdoch's Sky Doon, it's run by a guy called Jeremy Darroch. Little bit of fact finding before bold statements eh?
Sky don't really care about the SPL if they get the opportunity to pull the plug on the deal I reckon they will. Viewing figures for some SPL games (OF derby games aside) were lower than some episodes of The Simpsons, so what does it bring to Sky? Not much.
Make no mistake, this agenda as you put it, is being driven by greed from Hampden. The powers at the SPL and the SFA don't give a jot what the fans want but what they think will bring them more money. It's actually fear of losing the SPL deal with Sky (knowing that it's appeal is tenuous at best) that's driving this IMO.
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