bozza
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Still ain't recieved my subscribers issue yet, what do they say about it?
Ramside Hall Cathedral Course
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Still ain't recieved my subscribers issue yet, what do they say about it?
Scotty Cameron
Head Pro
My review will be published tomorrow 
going to settle down now and watch a film and have a few fosters 
but to say I enjoyed it is a bit of an understatement.
going to settle down now and watch a film and have a few fosters but to say I enjoyed it is a bit of an understatement.
bozza
Journeyman Pro
My review will be published tomorrow
but to say I enjoyed it is a bit of an understatement.
What sort of condition was it in?
Just that i've got a tee booked for Saturday and if it's not in the best condition i may have a look for another course.
snell
Journeyman Pro
My review will be published tomorrow
but to say I enjoyed it is a bit of an understatement.
I look forward to the review as its the first stop on my works society next April...
Scotty Cameron
Head Pro
Review is in the relevant section
bozza
Journeyman Pro
Just got back from playing it and have to day I'm a little disappointed in it.
I know it's winter and you can't expect courses to be in perfect condition but the fairways were a bit of a mess, pretty much everyone had really wet parts or was muddy or just churned up.
For a brand new course that's only been open since summer i would have expected it to drain it a lot better.
The layout isn't bad and there's some interesting holes but some I'm not a fan of.
The 17th for example is a 410 yard par 4 that dog lefts left to right, water at the start of the dog leg at 190 yards and 280 yards to clear it. So you either his a long iron to the dog leg short of the water and leave a 2nd shot of 230 yards into the green. Or try hit a high draw over some really big trees on the right that needs to carry around 220 yards to a fairway thats about 15 yards wide!
Oh and if you bail to far right there's more water!
It reminded me a lot of Sharpley that's jusy up the road, hilly and not much rough or trees as such.
It's not a bad course but not one I will rush back to play.
I know it's winter and you can't expect courses to be in perfect condition but the fairways were a bit of a mess, pretty much everyone had really wet parts or was muddy or just churned up.
For a brand new course that's only been open since summer i would have expected it to drain it a lot better.
The layout isn't bad and there's some interesting holes but some I'm not a fan of.
The 17th for example is a 410 yard par 4 that dog lefts left to right, water at the start of the dog leg at 190 yards and 280 yards to clear it. So you either his a long iron to the dog leg short of the water and leave a 2nd shot of 230 yards into the green. Or try hit a high draw over some really big trees on the right that needs to carry around 220 yards to a fairway thats about 15 yards wide!
Oh and if you bail to far right there's more water!
It reminded me a lot of Sharpley that's jusy up the road, hilly and not much rough or trees as such.
It's not a bad course but not one I will rush back to play.
Scotty Cameron
Head Pro
Have to agree with you Bozza, it wasn't in the best of condition. As reported in my little review they are still working on it and it shows. What do you think of the blind tee shots, I hate playing courses that you have to aim for marker posts.
I parred the 17th
thought it one of the better holes, at least I could see the green after my tee shot
On another note, when I cleaned my clubs yesterday I noticed I had a big gouge out of the sole of my 9 iron
and it wasn't there when I teed off, so there maybe a few stones embedded in the fairways as I only hit it about twice all day, both were on the par 5's if I remember rightly.
Will give it another shot at the end of summer when it has had a bit of growth, I just have to go and try those greens again.
I parred the 17th
thought it one of the better holes, at least I could see the green after my tee shot On another note, when I cleaned my clubs yesterday I noticed I had a big gouge out of the sole of my 9 iron
and it wasn't there when I teed off, so there maybe a few stones embedded in the fairways as I only hit it about twice all day, both were on the par 5's if I remember rightly.Will give it another shot at the end of summer when it has had a bit of growth, I just have to go and try those greens again.
bozza
Journeyman Pro
Yet it was a little annoying not being able to see the fairway properly at times, I understand that sometimes you will get blind tee shots on some holes but there seemed a lot of holes where the tee box was lower than the fairway when there was no need for it to be meaning you had to guess where you were hitting to.
I also parred the 17th having to hit 4 iron to the dog leg, then a 4 wood just left and short of the green then a chip and a putt.
Yeah the greens were a nice shape and had some places where they could tuck the pins away but they were really slow I found.
You could see a fair bit of damage to the fairways where the water has ran across them and formed small streams and washed parts away.
I personally don't think it should be open yet, it needs more time to bed in rather than getting churned up over winter before it's had chance to settle.
Needs to improve a lot condition wise before I'll pay the £45 summer green fee they charge.
I also parred the 17th having to hit 4 iron to the dog leg, then a 4 wood just left and short of the green then a chip and a putt.
Yeah the greens were a nice shape and had some places where they could tuck the pins away but they were really slow I found.
You could see a fair bit of damage to the fairways where the water has ran across them and formed small streams and washed parts away.
I personally don't think it should be open yet, it needs more time to bed in rather than getting churned up over winter before it's had chance to settle.
Needs to improve a lot condition wise before I'll pay the £45 summer green fee they charge.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
You should have said you were up here mate, I'd have dropped them shoes off for you.
Btw played Sharpley on Tuesday, enjoyed it but the wind was brutal and greens frozen solid. Would love to play it again in better conditions as it had some interesting holes.
bozza
Journeyman Pro
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Didn't think to be honest haha. I'm in no rush as I won't be wearing them till spring/summer.
Sharpley ain't a bad course always dry but it can be brutal when it's windy as its really exposed.
Some of the pin positions can be a little bit dodgy at times.
Didn't think to be honest haha. I'm in no rush as I won't be wearing them till spring/summer.
Sharpley ain't a bad course always dry but it can be brutal when it's windy as its really exposed.
Some of the pin positions can be a little bit dodgy at times.
Harsh to judge any parkland course at the moment isn't it? My own course would be ripped apart if reviewed any time now. That obviously won't change a dislike of blind holes but conditioning of courses at this time of year is bound to be weak at most parkland courses.
bozza
Journeyman Pro
I wouldn't really say it's a parkland course, there's not many trees on it's on a hilltop mainly and open so you think it should drain well.
It's also brand new and supposed to be a championship standard course, condition wise at the moment it's poor. We've also had a good winter weather wise round here, quite dry, hardly any snow and just a bit of frost the last week or so.
I'll give it a go in summer when it should be in perfect condition but they may struggle to get that with the damage that is getting done over winter.
Wayman
Tour Winner
I'll give it a go over the summer
Not best time to play course when they ain't cutting grass as much so expect the fairways tees greens to look raggy
Not best time to play course when they ain't cutting grass as much so expect the fairways tees greens to look raggy
bozza
Journeyman Pro
Tees and greens were ok just the fairways were a mess, a lot of the time you were struggling to find a place on the fairway to play from that wasn't standing water or churned up mud.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Played the Cathedral course yesterday with Snell's work society. Although I did really enjoy the day the course left me a little underwhelmed if I'm being honest. The fairways were really poor and some of the holes left a bit to be desired, Amen Corner? More like a few bog standard holes tucked away in a corner with a stream next to them
Lots of blind shots with no idea where to go unless you take a 50 yard walk up the fairway to have a look, it's a long walk as well, I clocked it at about 7.5 miles on my gps watch.
On the positive my Golf Buddy watch had the course on, other lads I played with who were also using gps didn't have it.
I'd play it again but not for another year or two.
Lots of blind shots with no idea where to go unless you take a 50 yard walk up the fairway to have a look, it's a long walk as well, I clocked it at about 7.5 miles on my gps watch.
On the positive my Golf Buddy watch had the course on, other lads I played with who were also using gps didn't have it.
I'd play it again but not for another year or two.
snell
Journeyman Pro
Had a good day our there yesterday with the work lot and Beezerk. But what a terrible condition the course is in. Absolute daylight robbery charging 30 quid to play it. It's pretty much a farmers field.
There is no grass on the fairways, and the drainage is non existent. Some of the hole layouts were beyond awful.
The only good thing I could say is that the greens were pretty nice. It would have been a total waste of a day had the company not been top class :thup:
There is no grass on the fairways, and the drainage is non existent. Some of the hole layouts were beyond awful.
The only good thing I could say is that the greens were pretty nice. It would have been a total waste of a day had the company not been top class :thup:
Played it yesterday, hail and all. Greens were large, slow but immaculate and true. Fairways were equally perfect. However beyond the fairways the ground was a mixture of bare, clumps of grass, clover and thick whispy grass. Go into there and good luck in finding your ball. Too much time was wasted looking for balls that were barely off line. If the course is busy it is going to take a long time to get round if they keep it the same. Get stuck with your ball lying against a clump and again it was not good. Some of the holes were very good but 13 was hateful and 14 not much better. On some holes the fairways were no more than 10yds wide in their entirety making it very tough indeed we are amateurs, not professionals.
As has already been stated the course is long, the walk between holes can be lengthy, where the next tee is is often unclear, there are too many blind shots and it is hilly. I slept very well the night after playing. This is a course where choosing to play off the yellows is not a wimpy option, in fact I would recommend it for most people.
So, what did I think? This is a very tough course and at times it is unfair. Saying that it is a test, a challenge and that is no bad thing. If you are tempted then leave it until next year. Let the additional grassy areas grow through so that not just the greens and fairways are in good condition. It just is not ready yet in comparison to the other courses in the area. This is a good challenge for good golfers but a nightmare for societies and HH. For me, I would choose to play the Prince Bishops course rather than this one. That is well established, a good test but is more forgiving than the Cathedral.
Ramside itself is undergoing redevelopment but the clubhouse is very nice, the locker rooms are like a gentlemans club and the whole visit is very pleasant.
As has already been stated the course is long, the walk between holes can be lengthy, where the next tee is is often unclear, there are too many blind shots and it is hilly. I slept very well the night after playing. This is a course where choosing to play off the yellows is not a wimpy option, in fact I would recommend it for most people.
So, what did I think? This is a very tough course and at times it is unfair. Saying that it is a test, a challenge and that is no bad thing. If you are tempted then leave it until next year. Let the additional grassy areas grow through so that not just the greens and fairways are in good condition. It just is not ready yet in comparison to the other courses in the area. This is a good challenge for good golfers but a nightmare for societies and HH. For me, I would choose to play the Prince Bishops course rather than this one. That is well established, a good test but is more forgiving than the Cathedral.
Ramside itself is undergoing redevelopment but the clubhouse is very nice, the locker rooms are like a gentlemans club and the whole visit is very pleasant.
