Racist Ryanair Passenger

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Liverpoolphil said:
It was racism , it’s quite easy for people to say an apology should be enough to forgive but i expect that some people have had to put up with racist behaviour and attitudes all their life and if they just forgive someone then it gives people the “out” to do it again knowing a quick sorry sorts it

I think the ladies in question are right not to accept his apology and don’t think they should forgive him even if they try and forget it

The only way the issue stops if people are punished for their actions and in this case the guy should be charged with racially motivated abuse and punished for it

Unless you have been in their shoes it’s not possible to suggest what they should do



Yes it is imo but then you know that so I can only guess at what you are going to try and suggest
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Is he able to be charged under uk law for an offence in Spain tho? Lot of grey area. A police caution should be enough rather than dragging it through the already over worked legal system (if the police can do anything , they couldn’t investigate at first as was the spainish polices area)
 
So he’s been identified and he’s apologised but the family aren’t happy with that and have rejected the apology. He’s saying he had a fit of temper and he isn’t a racist but they’re countering saying he wouldn’t use those terms if he wasn’t a racist.

I don’t agree with their logic, it’s definitely possible to use racist terms that you don’t mean but in this case he was a bloody idiot for doing so.
 
Kellfire said:
So he’s been identified and he’s apologised but the family aren’t happy with that and have rejected the apology. He’s saying he had a fit of temper and he isn’t a racist but they’re countering saying he wouldn’t use those terms if he wasn’t a racist.

I don’t agree with their logic, it’s definitely possible to use racist terms that you don’t mean but in this case he was a bloody idiot for doing so.
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If he had said old bastard instead of black he would just be a complete *** on a plane who got angry. He just stupidly identified the lady as black. Then added something demeaning which makes it racist. Have to be so careful with words now days it isn’t like the past where you could say a lot more and never be caught or identified.. cameras and social media.

Again not saying he is right at all. He’s a complete tool who abused an old lady. We all lose our temper but have to remember it doesn’t make it acceptable to take it out on others.
 
Well, he's apologised for the distress she's had, he hasn't apologised for what he said - so hardly surprising the family rejected his apology.
 
pauljames87 said:
Have to be so careful with words now days it isn’t like the past where you could say a lot more and never be caught or identified.. cameras and social media.
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It's not difficult to not racially abuse people - I don't consider that to having to be careful!
 
Beezerk said:
Accepting his apology would probably reduce the amount of damages she’s going to get 🤔
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Can't imagine there's anything to come in the way of damages from the bloke. And good luck getting anything out of Ryanair, trying to get an apology from them took long enough!
 
jp5 said:
Can't imagine there's anything to come in the way of damages from the bloke. And good luck getting anything out of Ryanair, trying to get an apology from them took long enough!
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Yeah, it was more suggesting they are getting some sort of advice on what to and what not to say to the media. I imagine they would have turned down the apology regardless but they must be being managed in some way or form. The guy is a ball end for the record, I can’t believe he’s come out fighting like he has, then again most bigots do.
 
There is no rule saying you have to accept an apology!

Why is he apologising - because he didn't mean to say it, because she's upset, or, because he was filmed saying it?
 
I quite liked the recent story about the landlord who threw out a customer for verbally abusing an Asian.
He got upset and called the police.
The officer attending was of Asian appearance who, within seconds, received the same abuse and she promptly arrested him.

Meanwhile back in Good ol Blighty a UKIP peer invites Tommy Robinson for lunch at Westminster. Strewth.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I quite liked the recent story about the landlord who threw out a customer for verbally abusing an Asian.
He got upset and called the police.
The officer attending was of Asian appearance who, within seconds, received the same abuse and she promptly arrested him.

Meanwhile back in Good ol Blighty a UKIP peer invites Tommy Robinson for lunch at Westminster. Strewth.
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Got a feeling that last sentance could open up a can of wiggly worms.
 
MegaSteve said:
And, if the apology lacks sincerity?
Are you still supposed to accept it gracefully?
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How do you know it was made without sincerity ?

If you don't accept It, as they haven't, what's next ? If it's not in the pursuit of some kind of compensation then what can it be ?
 
RandG said:
How do you know it was made without sincerity ?

If you don't accept It, as they haven't, what's next ? If it's not in the pursuit of some kind of compensation then what can it be ?
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Rather ironic that you were amused by people being offended on the woman’s behalf, and yet now you seem determined that he deserves to have his apology accepted.
 
RandG said:
How do you know it was made without sincerity ?

If you don't accept It, as they haven't, what's next ? If it's not in the pursuit of some kind of compensation then what can it be ?
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Where does compensation come into it?
Whether they accept the apology or not, he should still be investigated and let the criminal system run its course.
Ryanair will be the ones targetted for any financial recompense.
 
Papas1982 said:
Rather ironic that you were amused by people being offended on the woman’s behalf, and yet now you seem determined that he deserves to have his apology accepted.
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Stop making things up, have another read of my posts, I couldn't careless, I'm questioning why an apology isn't accepted, for what reason ?
 
pauldj42 said:
Where does compensation come into it?
Whether they accept the apology or not, he should still be investigated and let the criminal system run its course.
Ryanair will be the ones targetted for any financial recompense.
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I'm not disputing any of that.

Are you agreeing with me then that by not accepting an apology it's likely due to being in the pursuit of compensation
 
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