Bunkermagnet
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The woman herself moved seats....
User20205
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I think they moved her !
drdel
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To seats where her impairment would cause her and others less hassle - seems a wise move.
User20205
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Could be right. But the takehome is she was moved for being abused! He should have been (re) moved from the plane
USER1999
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Trouble is, by the time they would have located his luggage, everyone would have been delayed for hours. Not fair on the rest of the passengers to delay because of one idiot.
Nothing that a quick tazering couldn't solve.
Nothing that a quick tazering couldn't solve.
road2ruin
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I'd have lobbed him off the flight and leave him to arrange the pick up of his luggage from Barcelona at a later date.....
The issue is not what he does with his luggage, it is locating the luggage in the hold, if that is where he has put it. That is what would cause the delay. They can not carry on with the flight with him off the plane and his luggage on it, it would be a security risk. I'm not defending this, I would have removed him, but I understand the issue from the air companies point of view.
USER1999
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Exactly. They are not allowed to fly unaccompanied luggage.
It takes 10 mins at most to locate luggage. We experienced a passenger having a panic attack at Gatwick and refusing to fly. In real terms we were no later than most of our take offs this year, i.e. about 15 minutes late. Getting the Spanish Police onboard and getting him and his luggage off would have taken less than half an hour.
The missed slot argument is a red herring. If you have a look at most departures from major airports you will see up to 4 aircraft scheduled for the same slot. And this time of year, through till April, there are less aircraft in the air in Europe.
The prosecutor over here in Barcelona has raised a charge. The Police in Essex have passed the info onto him, e.g. the passenger’s ID. It’s now up to Spain to create a European Arrest Warrant. If he is extradited, found guilty and there’s no mitigating circumstances it’s a very hefty fine and a potential jail term over here.
The missed slot argument is a red herring. If you have a look at most departures from major airports you will see up to 4 aircraft scheduled for the same slot. And this time of year, through till April, there are less aircraft in the air in Europe.
The prosecutor over here in Barcelona has raised a charge. The Police in Essex have passed the info onto him, e.g. the passenger’s ID. It’s now up to Spain to create a European Arrest Warrant. If he is extradited, found guilty and there’s no mitigating circumstances it’s a very hefty fine and a potential jail term over here.
ColchesterFC
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How do they get around that rule when they put lost luggage on a later flight? Would there be additional security screening of the bag to make sure there was no risk?
Presumably. The thinking behind it is a terrorist somehow gets his suitcase past security with a bomb in it. It gets loaded on the plane but the terrorist then either does not board or finds a reason to get removed from the flight. The bomb goes off mid flight, the terrorist remains alive. The suicide bomber has turned this on its head a bit as they seem okay to die but the theory is sound. A lost luggage situation is different as the passenger has not intentionally engineered a situation where they are on a different flight. I'm guessing there would be extra checks still but I don't know for a fact.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-45988890
Has since apologised , loss of temper apparently. (Moral of story don’t fly Ryan air you will get so angry you will become a racist lol)
But on a serious note the lady and her daughter have rejected the apology? What else do they expect to happen. Is it worth wasting courts time dragging this through the system (if that’s what they want)
His rep will be ruined anyways and he will be seen as a racist by people he lives around. Hardly going to be smooth sailing for him for next few months.. is it worth dragging it out?
He’s apologised draw a line under it
Has since apologised , loss of temper apparently. (Moral of story don’t fly Ryan air you will get so angry you will become a racist lol)
But on a serious note the lady and her daughter have rejected the apology? What else do they expect to happen. Is it worth wasting courts time dragging this through the system (if that’s what they want)
His rep will be ruined anyways and he will be seen as a racist by people he lives around. Hardly going to be smooth sailing for him for next few months.. is it worth dragging it out?
He’s apologised draw a line under it
I kind of agree with what you're saying but I'll add a but. By doing so does it give free licence for others to have racist rants and then just apologise if they are caught out? I think the law must be seen to be done. The law is also a deterrent, and if you don't apply the law there is no deterrent.
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Police caution maybe? However I believe he is under Spanish law at the time (I am not sure but I read something about it somewhere)
I agree 100% with what your saying. It isn’t right what he said he was out of order however what else can be done that’s in the public’s interest
If he refused to apologise maybe to make a point
Tashyboy
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Think there are many issues with this. He has apologised. That for me does not make it the end of the story. He should of been booted off the plane and charged. They now know who it is, he should be charged. By not charging a dangerous precedent has been set. As has been suggested, he is not a full shilling. I think it proves once and for all. There is nowt wrong with him. He is a rascist, end of story.
He does not come out of this well even if he has apologised.
Ryanair, still not been in touch with two women involved. Disgusting.
He does not come out of this well even if he has apologised.
Ryanair, still not been in touch with two women involved. Disgusting.
Is being a racist a crime ?
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Lots of should ofs in the situation but that won’t change what’s happened
An apology has happened from the man (would say gentleman but he isn’t a gent) now it’s up to the airline to apologise and for me make a gesture and that should be it. No need to drag it out
Forgive but don’t forget in this case
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It was racism , it’s quite easy for people to say an apology should be enough to forgive but i expect that some people have had to put up with racist behaviour and attitudes all their life and if they just forgive someone then it gives people the “out†to do it again knowing a quick sorry sorts it
I think the ladies in question are right not to accept his apology and don’t think they should forgive him even if they try and forget it
The only way the issue stops if people are punished for their actions and in this case the guy should be charged with racially motivated abuse and punished for it
Unless you have been in their shoes it’s not possible to suggest what they should do
Yes it is imo but then you know that so I can only guess at what you are going to try and suggest
I'm asking a question and suggesting nothing, you need to stop over reacting to my posts.
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No, but airing racial views or racial hatred is.
