Racist Ryanair Passenger

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I agree with Cabby here, i found the fella's actions absolutely disgusting though i'm not personally offended.

Mental illness or not, that type of disgusting behaviour has no place in society.
 
Your first 4 or 5 posts were asking people what they would of done, you then questioned peoples judgement whilst sat in their armchairs, then moved on to calling people self righteous before saying LP’s reasoning was bizarre and questioning his behaviour, all of that before you admitted you hadn’t watched the clip, you may not of used those actual words but you certainly showed intolerance to anyone saying they were offended.

That man’s behaviour may have no direct impact on you or your family today, but if we ignore it and accept that behaviour then we risk becoming bad as him and society going backwards.
 
pauldj42 said:
Your first 4 or 5 posts were asking people what they would of done, you then questioned peoples judgement whilst sat in their armchairs, then moved on to calling people self righteous before saying LP’s reasoning was bizarre and questioning his behaviour, all of that before you admitted you hadn’t watched the clip, you may not of used those actual words but you certainly showed intolerance to anyone saying they were offended.

That man’s behaviour may have no direct impact on you or your family today, but if we ignore it and accept that behaviour then we risk becoming bad as him and society going backwards.
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I asked what others would've done simply to find out what they would've done that others hadn't. You find that on social media, a lot of people talk a good game but when push comes to shove, they rarely step up, that's why I asked what they would've done, the self righteous comment comes on the back of that. What people say they'll do and what they actually do, more often than not are different things, I'm sure you've found that out in life.

As it happens, I lied about not having watched the clip, I had watched it but choose to say I didn't because I was trying to play devils advocate. On here it seems you are not allowed to question anyone reasoning without some kind suspicion being labelled against you, as has already been shown in this topic.

Finally, yes you're correct, as a society in general, that kind of behaviour isn't acceptable but as we sit in our ivory towers, we know nothing about the chap, we know nothing of his history, in fact we know nothing about the lead up to the incident.

His racial abuse aside, do you know what started it ? I do.
 
therod said:
^^ what started it? I’m not sure it’s been widely reported, not that it would excuse what happened
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The woman is arthritic and didn’t move quickly enough for the rabid racist (to let him into his window seat), so he felt the need to act like a Trump supporter!
 
RandG said:
I asked what others would've done simply to find out what they would've done that others hadn't. You find that on social media, a lot of people talk a good game but when push comes to shove, they rarely step up, that's why I asked what they would've done, the self righteous comment comes on the back of that. What people say they'll do and what they actually do, more often than not are different things, I'm sure you've found that out in life.

As it happens, I lied about not having watched the clip, I had watched it but choose to say I didn't because I was trying to play devils advocate. On here it seems you are not allowed to question anyone reasoning without some kind suspicion being labelled against you, as has already been shown in this topic.

Finally, yes you're correct, as a society in general, that kind of behaviour isn't acceptable but as we sit in our ivory towers, we know nothing about the chap, we know nothing of his history, in fact we know nothing about the lead up to the incident.

His racial abuse aside, do you know what started it ? I do.
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You can’t have it both ways, you can’t purposely lie about not watching the clip to get a reaction, what if the first reply had of been along the lines of “I’d of punched him” we’d of had some agreeing, some call BS and some saying that was worse than the language, all to satisfy your social experiment.
I tried to give you an explanation on another thread by sharing personnel information only to be insulted!
The sad fact is very few of us know how we’d react in any given situation, but it doesn’t stop us debating it.
As for what started it, we’ve only had one side so far, the ladies when interviewed were very convincing but on the video he defends his actions by stating they insulted him when questioning his personal hygenie.
Whatever started it, there’s no reason for him to racially abuse her.
 
pauldj42 said:
You can’t have it both ways, you can’t purposely lie about not watching the clip to get a reaction, what if the first reply had of been along the lines of “I’d of punched him” we’d of had some agreeing, some call BS and some saying that was worse than the language, all to satisfy your social experiment.
I tried to give you an explanation on another thread by sharing personnel information only to be insulted!
The sad fact is very few of us know how we’d react in any given situation, but it doesn’t stop us debating it.
As for what started it, we’ve only had one side so far, the ladies when interviewed were very convincing but on the video he defends his actions by stating they insulted him when questioning his personal hygenie.
Whatever started it, there’s no reason for him to racially abuse her.
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Seems I can and have. No idea about you being insulted but by all means quote it if it were me but very much doubt I insulted you, I may well have had a completely different opinion to you, whic you didn't like but hey ho, that's just tough, that's forums for you, you know, folk having different opinions.

As for the guy, you'll note I have not defended his actions at any time in this topic but try questioning members on here's posts and it's like I'm the guy on the plane and everyone jumps in :ROFLMAO:

I also gave an explanation earlier in this topic about an old mate of mine getting his head kicked in for intervening in something that was none of his business, it's a valuable lesson in life, mind your own business.
 
RandG said:
Seems I can and have. No idea about you being insulted but by all means quote it if it were me but very much doubt I insulted you, I may well have had a completely different opinion to you, whic you didn't like but hey ho, that's just tough, that's forums for you, you know, folk having different opinions.

As for the guy, you'll note I have not defended his actions at any time in this topic but try questioning members on here's posts and it's like I'm the guy on the plane and everyone jumps in :ROFLMAO:

I also gave an explanation earlier in this topic about an old mate of mine getting his head kicked in for intervening in something that was none of his business, it's a valuable lesson in life, mind your own business.
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I’ve no issue with different opinions, but there is a fine line between you being taken serious and being seen as a wind up merchant or a troll, if people see you as the latter, responses to your posts will dwindle.
Yes you did give an example were intervening went wrong, but I’m sure we could have a pi55ing contest and people on the forum could provide examples of when intervening has worked.
 
I thought a forum was about having a debate/discussion hearing/giving points of view, on the face of things, so far to me, the minute one starts to question someone else's opinion they are seen as trolls/wind up merchants, which to me is like a get out clause from having a debate and answering questions asked of their post.

That aside, I do recall you getting a tad upset about NI but I certainly didn't insult you, if anything, I was the one being insulted in that topic, but that's water off a ducks back to me..I do however tend to back the underdog and the chap Kellfire was certainly the underdog in that topic.

Anyway, I thank you for the discussion, at least you stayed the course and debated it out.
 
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RandG said:
I thought a forum was about having a debate/discussion hearing/giving points of view, on the face of things, so far to me, the minute one starts to question someone else's opinion they are seen as trolls/wind up merchants, which to me is like a get out clause from having a debate and answering questions asked of their post.

That aside, I do recall you getting a tad upset about NI but I certainly didn't insult you, if anything, I was the one being insulted in that topic, but that's water off a ducks back to me..I do however tend to back the underdog and the chap Kellfire was certainly the underdog in that topic.

Anyway, I thank you for the discussion, at least you stayed the course and debated it out.
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You've admitted lying to see the reaction. That’s the very essence of trolling.....

You can’t troll and then complain when you’re accused of it.
 
Papas1982 said:
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ouve admitted lying to see the reaction. That’s the very essence of trolling.....

You can’t troll and then complain when you’re accused of it.
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So the whole basis on my posts was based on me saying I'd not seen the vid....err, I don't think so.

I questioned LP about him being offended by it, whether I had seen the vid or not had nothing to do with my questioning his reasoning, I was trying to remain independent/devils advocate.
 
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RandG said:
Are you also the type of person that hears about something that happened on telly then subsequently complain about it, despite not having seen what ever it was at the time, yet retrospectively becomes offended by it ?
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Would I be right in assuming that was aimed at me?
 
RandG said:
I thought a forum was about having a debate/discussion hearing/giving points of view, on the face of things, so far to me, the minute one starts to question someone else's opinion they are seen as trolls/wind up merchants, which to me is like a get out clause from having a debate and answering questions asked of their post.

That aside, I do recall you getting a tad upset about NI but I certainly didn't insult you, if anything, I was the one being insulted in that topic, but that's water off a ducks back to me..I do however tend to back the underdog and the chap Kellfire was certainly the underdog in that topic.

Anyway, I thank you for the discussion, at least you stayed the course and debated it out.
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Oi, keep me out of it! Haha. I can fight my own battles on here! ;)
 
RandG said:
I haven't said that at any time. I have questioned why someone would be offended at the actions of someone being racially offensive to someone else when they weren't there, and is offended retrospectively, just seems very bizarre. Its like those folk who find out about something on telly days after the fact, despite having never seen it, and then go out their way to make a complaint about it. o_O
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I find it a bit ironic that you have used that as an analogy when you commented on summat you hadn't seen.
 
Read the article but couldn't find where it says what action was taken? Were the mother daughter moved up to first class or anything to get away from the idiot at least?
 
On topic: He should've been kicked off the plane no matter if he was drunk, just being plain racist or has any sort of mental issues or whatnot. Watched a fair share of shows were people with learning disabilities has been on, and the way he was speaking it did indeed sound very alike to that.

Off topic: The best way of dealing with trolls is to use the ignore button. Yes, I'm talking about RandG, and no, I won't reply or read anything else you might write in response to this.
 
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