R&A Policy on Transgender

[clubchamp98]

As regards handicapping (I’m not going to enter the scratch debate), as far as I know there is no known or needed formula for converting a woman’s HI into a man’s or vice versa.
Therefore the player would have to start again by submitting 3 18 hole cards or 6 9 hole cards, then after that their first HI would be their best minus 2, then minus 1 etc. etc. just as all handicaps are adjusted before a full 20 score record is achieved. Provided these scores were genuine (no reason to suggest that they wouldn’t be) the player wouldn’t be a bandit.

Just asking , would they need another CDH number ?
Or are they transferred automatically?

 

[D-S]

Just asking , would they need another CDH number ?
Or are they transferred automatically?

I haven’t had any experience of it ever happening so no idea.
Oddly I assume not as you can change the gender of a member (no pun intended) on the basic information page where you input the other info like date of birth etc.

 

[tobybarker]

Honestly, i would think the hcp issue would be low on most clubs list of issues surrounding trans members. That said I'm not*aware* of any in our club so i don't speak from experience.

 

[3 jabber]

Prestige national events for elite golfers are not handicap competitions, so your whole argument is moot.

True but entry into them is based on handicap.

 

[rulie]

True but entry into them is based on handicap.

There is also a gender requirement for entry, which is what this thread was originally about.

 

[3 jabber]

There is also a gender requirement for entry, which is what this thread was originally about.

Take that up with the person that took the thread off topic.

 

[rulie]

Take that up with the person that took the thread off topic.

No need.

 

[mikejohnchapman]

Why is this? When WHS came in surely it was a good time to just have one handicap for men and women. Tees all rated the same. Surely all that would happen is if a course par changes for ladies their handicap would go up and still able to compete off the same tees?

Logically ofc

The courses are rated by gender for each tee requested by the club. The basis for the rating is that a men hits the ball further than a woman (scratch and bogey) and hence the same hole played from the same tee will be rated differently for men and women.

The USGA system has always been like this.

 

[simsini]

No biological man should be competing in women's sports at any level. If they do, then the concept of women's sports ceases to exist. In essence, there is no men's category anyway, it's women's golf or open golf. So all scenarios are already catered for.

 

[rulefan]

The courses are rated by gender for each tee requested by the club. The basis for the rating is that a men hits the ball further than a woman (scratch and bogey) and hence the same hole played from the same tee will be rated differently for men and women.

The USGA system has always been like this.

As was SSS in effect.