Pylons...

[backwoodsman]

I think we're back to post #3..

Ball not hit pylon on way in - so no "replay stroke"
The ground between pylon legs is not part of the structure of pylon, so simply landing there won't count as striking the pylon - so still no "replay stroke"
So play as it lies, or take relief from immovable obstruction if appropriate.

 

[Foxholer]

I think we're back to post #3..

Ball not hit pylon on way in - so no "replay stroke"
The ground between pylon legs is not part of the structure of pylon, so simply landing there won't count as striking the pylon - so still no "replay stroke"
So play as it lies, or take relief from immovable obstruction if appropriate.

As adjusted by Post #4!

In the situation described by the OP, it depends solely on whether the pylons have been deemed to be an integral part of the course - which, given the 'replay if it strikes wires or pylon', I very much doubt will be the case!

If deemed to be an integral part of the course, then no relief. If not, then they are IOs, so relief is available as per 24-2 - but note the exception!

My experience of such situations is that the whole area within the 'legs' of pylons are deemed to be 'within the IO' - for pretty obvious Health and Safety reasons! There is frequently even a fence around the legs, which is deemed to the boundary of the IO! Telegraph poles, which do not have the same potential danger as pylons, may well be treated differently though I can't remember encountering any!

 

[rulie]

We have a number of pylons running across our course. They are regarded as an immovable obstruction, so relief without penalty.

For the power cables "if a ball strikes any power cables (not the pylons) within the course the player must disregard the stroke, abandon the ball and play another ball as near as possible to the spot from which the original ball was played without penalty."

It's interesting that the wording "within the course" is not part of the Local Rule recommended by the R&A. It may make your Local Rule and unauthorized Local Rule.

 

[rulefan]

It's interesting that the wording "within the course" is not part of the Local Rule recommended by the R&A. It may make your Local Rule and unauthorized Local Rule.

The difference between this LR from a decision and others in Appendix I Part A, is that the latter are recommendations, whereas this is only a suggestion. In others from the decisions, actual wording is often not even suggested at all. This implies that the choice of words is flexible and can be tuned as required.

 

[rulie]

The difference between this LR from a decision and others in Appendix I Part A, is that the latter are recommendations, whereas this is only a suggestion. In others from the decisions, actual wording is often not even suggested at all. This implies that the choice of words is flexible and can be tuned as required.

I don't support your implication, it's taking liberties with the wording and it's not supported by the Decisions. When there is flexibility permitted, it's shown in the wording. The wordings in 33-8 for authorized local Rules are inconsistent - some say "suggested", others say "recommended" and this is because they were not all written/approved by the same Committees (different people at different times).

 

[rulefan]

Either way, suggested does not mean mandatory.

However, in reality it would be almost impossible to tell if a ball had hit slightly one side or the other of the vertical line from the OB margin on the ground.