Putting Stats - Thoughts?

I was thinking something similar myself the other day. If you can consistently hole out from the 3-5 ft range it takes all the pressure of your chipping and lag putting. Anything over 10 ft and even the best players aren't consistently holing those so just focus on the shorter ones.
 
That's quite interesting.
I never and never have kept putting stats, all
I know is I'm much better than I was.
One thing I would say for me is I'm usually
Within 25-30 ft for most putts if I can
Cut out the 3 putts completely I'm going
To have a good round.
There's nothing worse than 3 putting after
You have reached the green in regulation.
 
There's a similar argument to be made for bunker shots. So long as you can get the ball out of the bunker, that's probably all the bunker ability an amateur player needs because you're really not in them that much.
 
The 90′s shooters should instantly go into “lag mode” from 20 feet out, ensuring that they have the proper feel to snuggle the ball close to the hole from longer distances. Remember that the proficiency of the 90′s shooters from shorter distances basically states that until they get the ball within 5 feet, they will miss more than half their second putts.

Read more at http://www.golfwrx.com/226273/are-you-wasting-your-time-on-the-putting-green/#3G4fDsDou64wfAMz.99

This sounds a bit negative. He seems to be suggesting that if a "90 shooter" tries to make a 20 foot putt they might miss it by more than 5 feet.

Surely aiming for the hole (dead-weight perhaps) and trying to make it is a better mind-frame and will possibly leave a shorter second putt than purely trying to get it inside 5 feet?
 
You can say anything with stats. Plus there's some bold statements in there without reasoning eg:

Lag putting work from 20 feet and in is basically a waste of time for the tour pro and scratch player.

Is this due to their natural ability, or the fact that they practice a lot of putts from 20 feet? You could take it either way.
 
The problem with these kind of stats, especially for the amateur player, is that they group by score.
Just because you score 90 it doesn't always follow that you should be lag putting from 20'.
A couple of extremes - someone plays off 20, takes 4 shots to get to every green then sinks a putt from distance or the mid single handicapper who hits fairways and greens for fun but can't sink one from outside 6 feet.....

And let's face it, the majority of us end up lag putting from 20' anyway as we're almost certain to miss but leave the ball fairly close....

What the stats do show is that we all think we should be better than we are - if a Tour Pro sinks half of his 8 footers we should be happy with 25%...!
How many of us are?
 
Duckster said:
You can say anything with stats. Plus there's some bold statements in there without reasoning eg:

Lag putting work from 20 feet and in is basically a waste of time for the tour pro and scratch player.

Is this due to their natural ability, or the fact that they practice a lot of putts from 20 feet? You could take it either way.
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Because they can afford to miss by up to 5 feet and still have an above 75% chance of making the second putt.

If an amateur misses a 20ft putt leaving a 5 footer they are only 50-50 from there according to them stats.
 
This all seems unnecessarily complex for most golfers, me included as I read all sorts of stuff on this subject. When to lag? When not to? Optimal distances to hole from? Danger areas? Hmmm.. I'm also skeptical of the stat's as, not unsurprisingly with these things, there's little mention of the sampling or testing process behind the numbers. Could be made up but could of course be a long lost secret to success. Hey ho.

I'm firmly of the belief that ALL golfers should keeping putting simple; get a good idea of pace of the greens before playing (if possible) and then putt to the hole trying to hole it with as little as possible littering your hat support structure as is humanly possible. Anybody thinking about statistics in the build up to, or during the putting process needs a sit down with nurse.
 
I agree with a lot of this on here and others seem to have shared my own thoughts. Personally I'm looking to hole every putt irrespective of distance and think trying to lag in a specific distance is both and negative. I'm realistic to know that anything over 20 feet is going to be a bonus more than an expectation (indeed anything over ten feet!!) but I have been working hard at holing out in the 3-8 feet areas and it does seem to be making a positive difference
 
pros lag putts too. trying to put everything 18inches past the hole doesn't work from miles away. it doesn't take much to race by the hole and down the slope behind the hole. caution is sometimes necessary.


lag doesn't mean short. it means cozying it up to the hole with the chance of it dropping. lag means you shouldn't race it by.
 
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