watched a bit of the British Masters highlights this morning and noticed one hole, which must have been the back end of his round Tommy Fleetwood was stood on the tee with the sign behind saying 490 yards par 4. it looked like he hit a mid iron off the tee and an iron again for his 2nd shot on the green. I looked at the Walton Heath Old course and could only see one hole on the card that was close to that, the 8th off the white is 494 yards (si3) a par 5, but off the purple tee (back) its 588 as a par 5.
There is no doubt the pro's hit it a long way and are much fitter, but is there not a fair bit of kidology going on in some of these tournaments ??
seen it myself first hand what it said on the tee and where pro's actually played from have been vastly different. Scottish Open at Royal Aberdeen, first morning tee marker behind players said 250 par 3, we walked up behind the tee to get a close look but walked past the stone that marked the back tee and the players were a good 50 yards forward of that. Also at Castle Stuart the last time it was there, the 13th 441 off the back which that day was into a stiff breeze that day, but the tee marker was closer to the green tee , 40 yards further forward. i play with an R&A Rules official from time to time and asked him this week what tee's they used at the open at Carnoustie and he admitted some were never right at the back in particularly the 16th and many of the back tee;s didn't really get used until the final round. Trump Aberdeen for Instance is 7428 off the back Par 72 with a course rating of 77.4, was commented that they would never be used in a pro Tournament!
I could be just jumping to conclusions, but why have courses 7300 plus if the very best in the world don't actually play off them..
There is no doubt the pro's hit it a long way and are much fitter, but is there not a fair bit of kidology going on in some of these tournaments ??
seen it myself first hand what it said on the tee and where pro's actually played from have been vastly different. Scottish Open at Royal Aberdeen, first morning tee marker behind players said 250 par 3, we walked up behind the tee to get a close look but walked past the stone that marked the back tee and the players were a good 50 yards forward of that. Also at Castle Stuart the last time it was there, the 13th 441 off the back which that day was into a stiff breeze that day, but the tee marker was closer to the green tee , 40 yards further forward. i play with an R&A Rules official from time to time and asked him this week what tee's they used at the open at Carnoustie and he admitted some were never right at the back in particularly the 16th and many of the back tee;s didn't really get used until the final round. Trump Aberdeen for Instance is 7428 off the back Par 72 with a course rating of 77.4, was commented that they would never be used in a pro Tournament!
I could be just jumping to conclusions, but why have courses 7300 plus if the very best in the world don't actually play off them..