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Spartacus

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Ian Huntley to claim for compensation.

Is this right?

He claims he's being targeted because of his heinous crimes and should be better protected.

I think it's bollocks!

Instead of better protection, why not apply the death penalty, applied in cases where there is no doubt of guilt?

If he gets money, he'll be stuck inside with it anyway, as he got 40 years minimum.

So, should prisoners have the right to sue when they get targeted?

I say no.
 

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He is inside to do his time for the crimes he did,it is the prison services duty to ensure he gets ''looked after correctly'' which I think they seem to have done very well. :rolleyes:
 

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Agree, totally out of order
If he was put in solitary for his own protection, he would complain over that too.

I cant see the point of keeping him alive, waste of rations, same as the Ripper, It costs thousands a year each, to keep these people incarserated. in my opinion they should lose their "Human Rights" They dont deserve any.

After all, they didnt have to join

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He is inside to do his time for the crimes he did,it is the prison services duty to ensure he gets ''looked after correctly'' which I think they seem to have done very well. :rolleyes:
Dodger, if the prison authorities had done their duty to society properly, he would be dead by now.
 

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Ian, I think Dodger is saying that the prison service were not at fault as the gimp deserved it.

I am sick to the back teeth of do gooders and people who line their pockets defending these animals.
 

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I'm glad that those who have to make these decisions aren't so blood thirsty.

Nothing like a bit of chest beating online though, eh?
 

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Are those born with certain desires likely to kill regardless?

If the death penalty was still in force, would murderers still murder, would rapists still rape?

I wonder, I wonder?
 

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1) If I was a legal professional, I would refuse to defend or represent scum like this regardless of £££.

2) In the nick, there always a few "proper" screws who will at some time make sure nonces, rapists and the like get hurt. These screws deserve a medal in my eyes.

3) Its prison, it isnt going to be a boy-scouts camp and at the end of the day, with the human resources available, it is impossible to give 100% safe 24/7 protection to any prisoner. Even when a friend of mine was in the supernick within a nick at Belmarsh and things were ultra-tight things still managed to happen.

Whichever Lawyer is presenting this case needs their head read, they are trying to earn a bit of minor celebrity and nice bit of bunce at the same time.
 

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If the death penalty was still in force, would murderers still murder, would rapists still rape?

I wonder, I wonder?

Yes, they would. The death penalty does not deter crime. Look at the USA for the prime example. The vast majority of states have the death penalty and their homicide rate is near four times greater than the UK.
 

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1) If I was a legal professional, I would refuse to defend or represent scum like this regardless of £££.

2) In the nick, there always a few "proper" screws who will at some time make sure nonces, rapists and the like get hurt. These screws deserve a medal in my eyes.

3) Its prison, it isnt going to be a boy-scouts camp and at the end of the day, with the human resources available, it is impossible to give 100% safe 24/7 protection to any prisoner. Even when a friend of mine was in the supernick within a nick at Belmarsh and things were ultra-tight things still managed to happen.

Whichever Lawyer is presenting this case needs their head read, they are trying to earn a bit of minor celebrity and nice bit of bunce at the same time.

1) How does that work? At the stage at which you'd be taking the case, their guilt has not be ascertained hence the need for a trial.

2) That's a fairly sick mentality to have. Oddly, it makes you fairly similar in make up to those you want to feel your strange form of justice. If you think that way, perhaps you are a potential murderer and should be put in prison?
 

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Everyone deserves legal representation, guilty or not.

I agree, he's there to do his time and the prison service is supposed to ensure that that's what happens, regardless of prejudice... that's the law.

I don't think he should have the rights to a financial settlement although he should have the rights to voice his opinion (via a lawyer) and have something done about it if the prison service is not 'providing the service' it should.
 

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If prisons are full, as per the news, then the government need to address this issue.

The consequences of not will be legal payouts higher than staff costs!
 

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How is it a sick mentality Kellfire???

These people who have comitted such crimes should be put to death and a good hiding is the minimum they deserve.

Are you saying if someone you love was a victim of a sick crime that 5 years bird then walking out would be a suitable punishment for them?

If someone hurt my loved ones I would swap 60 seconds alone in a room with them over any custodial sentence.
 

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1) If I was a legal professional, I would refuse to defend or represent scum like this regardless of £££.

2) In the nick, there always a few "proper" screws who will at some time make sure nonces, rapists and the like get hurt. These screws deserve a medal in my eyes.

3) Its prison, it isnt going to be a boy-scouts camp and at the end of the day, with the human resources available, it is impossible to give 100% safe 24/7 protection to any prisoner. Even when a friend of mine was in the supernick within a nick at Belmarsh and things were ultra-tight things still managed to happen.

Whichever Lawyer is presenting this case needs their head read, they are trying to earn a bit of minor celebrity and nice bit of bunce at the same time.

1. Good thing you are not a lawyer. Guilty people deserve a defence, and they deserve to get convicted, but fairly.

2. Those 'screws' are criminals and vigilante thugs who deserve to be on the other side of the bars. Where, I assume, the prisoners also have an informal policy for dealing with former screws.
 

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How is it a sick mentality Kellfire???

These people who have comitted such crimes should be put to death and a good hiding is the minimum they deserve.

Are you saying if someone you love was a victim of a sick crime that 5 years bird then walking out would be a suitable punishment for them?

If someone hurt my loved ones I would swap 60 seconds alone in a room with them over any custodial sentence.

You perfectly embody why those who are wronged should never be allowed to dictate the punishment.

I personally couldn't stand to see anyone put through torment, no matter their crimes. I don't have that in me.

I'm not saying I think current prison sentences are long enough, I am saying that capital punishment is not the answer as is proven across the world. We should be proud of the fact that we, as a nation, don't resort to such base, animal instincts not trying to revert to them.
 

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Kellfire, can you honestly say that the world would not have been a better place if Huntley and his like had never existed ?

And would they be missed if they were gone ?
 
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