Price of Football

pbrown7582 said:
how much is a cup of tea in starbucks or costa
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Too much I expect

But at least there's a pretense of added value with the fancy teas, armchairs, proper cups, papers, wifi etc (still its overpriced but that just makes the fitba club prices an even bigger joke)


edit: I don't actually drink tea so just having a moan for the hell of it :D
 
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HomerJSimpson said:
I disagree. I think there's too much riding on it and UEFA will want to retain the CL (effectively already a European League to a dgree with the group stages and with qualifying for the top spots per league. That is a huge cash cow and I think it would only be driven by the clubs on the back of a mega TV deal.

As for prices etc. once you've bought the ticket, all other spending is up to you (easier said than done I accept if the kids are there) but it's a free market and if you think £2.50 is too steep for a cuppa, don't pay it. Funnily enough Kidderminster have the most expensive pies apparently (£4.50) but there seems little angst at that!

PSG have matchday tickets of £187 and so it's not just PL sides that are charging through the nose. I assume the Eridivise has similar TV deals etc to the PL (as it's shown on BT sport) and so they are obviously getting shed loads of cash and fill the stadium anyway so there's a market there prepared to pay that much. Surely thats the bottom line and if people are prepared to part with the money clubs will get away with charging as much as they can. That's surely basic economics
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To be fair you won't get a better pie at any ground in the country! They're not your traditional meat pie. They're more like a meal and are absolutely massive
 
If people are daft enough to keep stumping up for tickets, merchandise etc then they will keep increasing the prices. The Bayern Munich thing is pointless. There's no point boycotting part of a match. The club still has your money for the rest of it. After that they don't care what you do. Boycott the whole match to try and make a difference. Even then they've already got the money from season ticket holders.

If people really want to make a difference then they need to cancel their Sky subscriptions. But they wont, they'd rather moan. And that's the rub.
 
Tongo said:
If people are daft enough to keep stumping up for tickets, merchandise etc then they will keep increasing the prices. The Bayern Munich thing is pointless. There's no point boycotting part of a match. The club still has your money for the rest of it. After that they don't care what you do. Boycott the whole match to try and make a difference. Even then they've already got the money from season ticket holders.

If people really want to make a difference then they need to cancel their Sky subscriptions. But they wont, they'd rather moan. And that's the rub.
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How would cancelling a Sky subscription help? less money in business's tends to lead to business's failing, not to a drop in prices as income wouldn't cover expenditure.

If your not happy with the price, don't pay, that goes for just about all social aspects of life.
 
pauldj42 said:
How would cancelling a Sky subscription help? less money in business's tends to lead to business's failing, not to a drop in prices as income wouldn't cover expenditure.

If your not happy with the price, don't pay, that goes for just about all social aspects of life.
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If clubs are getting less money in then they would have to think about reducing the exorbitant wages. A mythical scenario but there you go.

Football fans are little more than cash cows to clubs these days. As long as they pay up the clubs don't care.
 
Tongo said:
If clubs are getting less money in then they would have to think about reducing the exorbitant wages. A mythical scenario but there you go.

Football fans are little more than cash cows to clubs these days. As long as they pay up the clubs don't care.
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The Football clubs also employ a lot of ordinary folk who's livelihoods depend on them, never mind the spin offs to local communities. Who do you think the clubs would target first to make savings?
 
pauldj42 said:
The Football clubs also employ a lot of ordinary folk who's livelihoods depend on them, never mind the spin offs to local communities. Who do you think the clubs would target first to make savings?
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Naturally they would go first. But they are a drop in the ocean compared to player salaries. Stuff that clubs can afford cos of the PL vast sums of PL dosh.

The upshot is that if people want change / lower prices then they need to stop paying in in the first place. But that wont happen.
 
Tongo said:
Naturally they would go first. But they are a drop in the ocean compared to player salaries. Stuff that clubs can afford cos of the PL vast sums of PL dosh.

The upshot is that if people want change / lower prices then they need to stop paying in in the first place. But that wont happen.
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I suspect that if every UK-based Man Utd fan boycotted Old Trafford they'd fill the ground with tourists
 
Tongo said:
Naturally they would go first. But they are a drop in the ocean compared to player salaries. Stuff that clubs can afford cos of the PL vast sums of PL dosh.

The upshot is that if people want change / lower prices then they need to stop paying in in the first place. But that wont happen.
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Not necessarily, it was only a few years back Man Utd admitted they could play in front of empty stadiums and make a profit. Real Madrid recouped David Beckhams transfer fee in Shirt Sales in the Far East in 2 weeks.
 
I don't think anyone has clean hands when it comes to the cost of football:

The TV companies have no love for the sport. What football has shown that it can to is attract TV subscribers and so Sky and BT will keep going with their bidding wars because the winner is the one who gets the subscribers who then sign up for other services. This is all in the name of competition which has worked for the football clubs but not for the fan who now has to pay 2 subscriptions if they want to watch all football.

The cost of food, drinks, merchandise etc is not a new thing. At a football stadium you have a captice audience and so prices are sky high like at a motorway services or any gig. Same with any officially produced merchandise, always sky high prices. That said, in a world where people pay more than £60 for a designer T shirt that is, after all, just a tee shirt or £50 for a golf polo shirt that is, after all, just a polo shirt, it is not that high a price. A football club label is just another designer label to pay over the odds for. What is wrong is the changing of kits every year and marketing it to kids who have to have the up to date one. In rugby it used to be better to have an old shirt to show history with the club but even that has changed now.

Player wages are another point and fans are not totally blameless in this. How much support would you get for a club that only paid lower wages and plummetted down the leagues. There would be fan demands for the head of every member of staff or board member. Success in football costs money and by demanding success all the power was given to players to demand higher wages to provide it. If the fans made a statement that they were happy for their clubs to cut wages and that they would accept the consequences then you may have clubs with a stronger bargaining positions. Until that happens, wages need to be paid and the clubs need income to cover that.
 
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