Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Orikoru]

more consistent than the clowns adjudicating it thats for sure!

im still not anti VAR, just anti the current laughable implementation of it, pretty sure theres a much better middle ground (albeit still wont be ideal for game going fans )

You're right, the rule changes have been utterly stupid. But so many times the people reviewing the VAR seem to have come up with something completely different to what we've all witnessed at home. No matter what they do we still have human error and inconsistency. Which sort of renders it pointless bringing in VAR in the first place.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Whilst this current crop of refs are around nothing will change. Improve the standard of refs, 1st and foremost.

I'd like to know who owns the VAR concept.

 

[fundy]

Whilst this current crop of refs are around nothing will change. Improve the standard of refs, 1st and foremost.

I'd like to know who owns the VAR concept.

Liverpool?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Liverpool?

Playing like champions aren't they. Don't think City have been overly good either but Liverpool don't look fussed at all - almost as lacklustre as the applause from the City guard of honour

 

[Dan2501]

New handball rule is farcical. How do you disallow the 5th goal for that?

 

[brendy]

Now that is what hungover football looks like!

 

[Deleted member 1740]

LiVARpool?

I forgot, week long celebrations taken its toll ?

 

[Slime]

I forgot, week long celebrations taken its toll ?

Aye, very unprofessional.

 

[fundy]

I forgot, week long celebrations taken its toll ?

only just starting then

 

[clubchamp98]

I thought we played ok first half but our final ball was non existent.
We got a lesson in finishing from City.

 

[clubchamp98]

VAR has totally ruined football. No point watching it anymore. Why bring in VAR if you're just going to use blind morons to review it? That clearly his his shoulder blade from every angle of the replay and they call it handball? Even if it's handball was he not bundled over and fouled?? ***** stupid.

Yes agree.
What I don’t get is the ref played advantage ,but spurs didn’t get any advantage as the goal is disallowed.
So it should be a foul to spurs.
VAR is a joke.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I thought we played ok first half but our final ball was non existent.
We got a lesson in finishing from City.

I thought that the greatest difference was at the other end of the pitch.

The unreliable City defence looked really solid for once.

Liverpool's defence has been absolutely magnificent all season but last night looked all over the place. Even Alyson and DvD.

 

[Liverbirdie]

This is the result of the rules are rules, handball is handball brigade.

Those who have moaned for and wanted VAR are now reaping the rewards.

So what you're saying is people who wanted VAR wanted the handball rule to change to something that is stupid?

Some leap that.

 

[Orikoru]

So what you're saying is people who wanted VAR wanted the handball rule to change to something that is stupid?

Some leap that.

Yeah, exactly that. Imagine the meeting.
"Now that we've got VAR assistance for the refs we'd better make sure that absolutely every minute suggestion of a handball, no matter how tenuous or accidental, means the goal is chalked off!"
"But why?"
"Because we can see all that now, on the video."
"But.. why??"
"Err.. why not? It'll be funny?"

 

[Junior]

Playing like champions aren't they. Don't think City have been overly good either but Liverpool don't look fussed at all - almost as lacklustre as the applause from the City guard of honour

City not overly good in defence maybe but going forward they were immense. I realise Liverpool were hungover but De Bruyne was class and Foden gave Roberton the run around, which doesn't happen to him very often. Foden is going to be some player.

That said, Liverpool could have been 2 up before City scored. Quite the open and entertaining game. Still crap without the fans though

 

[Deleted member 1740]

So what you're saying is people who wanted VAR wanted the handball rule to change to something that is stupid?

Some leap that.

No.

What I'm saying is those who wanted it, have got it so accept what you're getting.

What's good in theory, isn't so good in practice.

Regards the handball law change, it was a change that probably needed to be made as people/refs/managers/pundits couldn't decipher intentional v accidental handball.

 

[User62651]

A minder to Liverpool that they can't rest on their laurels, City fairly slick and keen and Liverpool whilst apperaring to give 100% were not quite at it. Everyone gets a gubbing at Etihad sometimes but whilst I thought City would win at home it was a wee bit embarrassing for Liverpool to go down by 4 just a week after landing the title. When was the last time Liverpool lost by 4 in a domestic comp?

I think Klopp was livid, when interviewed was quite nippy with the interviewer about the interpretation of the questions.

Doesn't detract from a terrific season for the champs but I hope they can get a few more wins in the last 6 games to get the points record and dont fizzle out.

 

[Orikoru]

No.

What I'm saying is those who wanted it, have got it so accept what you're getting.

What's good in theory, isn't so good in practice.

Regards the handball law change, it was a change that probably needed to be made as people/refs/managers/pundits couldn't decipher intentional v accidental handball.

Don't really agree though. When VAR was touted I was picturing the video screen at the side of the pitch so the referee could review a decision he wasn't sure about by watching it. And I was all for it. What we've got is something VERY different. Idiots sitting in an office reviewing it instead of the referee who actually has the context of the game; plus some stupid rule changes to make them more arbitrary instead of using common sense, which wasn't needed at all. I don't know who decided video replays and common sense weren't compatible. I just don't know how they have got it so wrong. It could have been done so much easier and better.

 

[Liverbirdie]

No.

What I'm saying is those who wanted it, have got it so accept what you're getting.

What's good in theory, isn't so good in practice.

Regards the handball law change, it was a change that probably needed to be made as people/refs/managers/pundits couldn't decipher intentional v accidental handball.

The handball law didnt need to be changed, it should have just stayed what it was approx 5-10 years ago, and for the main it worked.

No reffing in football is perfect, but some are better than others. The handball rule/interpretation is a perfect example.

I think the vast majority of handballs 5-10 years ago could be deciphered down the intentional / borderline / non-intentional spheres but when they started to bring in mad descriptions was when it started to go pear-shaped. Nothing to do with VAR but with VAR making rule decisions, it comes into that sphere of influence, but the main problem is the rule itself.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

A minder to Liverpool that they can't rest on their laurels, City fairly slick and keen and Liverpool whilst apperaring to give 100% were not quite at it. Everyone gets a gubbing at Etihad sometimes but whilst I thought City would win at home it was a wee bit embarrassing for Liverpool to go down by 4 just a week after landing the title. When was the last time Liverpool lost by 4 in a domestic comp?

I think Klopp was livid, when interviewed was quite nippy with the interviewer about the interpretation of the questions.

Doesn't detract from a terrific season for the champs but I hope they can get a few more wins in the last 6 games to get the points record and dont fizzle out.

Score those early chances and it s a different game/result.

Credit has to go to city for doing a job on Robbo, he's one of our biggest threats.