Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Wolf]

I'm watching games with the crowd noise on and I think they are doing a good job with it. Every so often we turn over to the match as it is and that is awful, completely soulless. There is a lot of rustiness out there, hopefully the games will improve.

One for Arsenal fans, what does Alex Iwobi bring to the table? I'm not basing everything on yesterday as it is unfair to judge against a Liverpool or City, but I just don't see what it is that he does. What is his role? 3/4 of the way through this season in a blue shirt and I am none the wiser.

He brings nothing except the odd shirt sale to Nigerian supporters.

He is absolute garbage, the day you bought him from us we all celebrated. Sadly for you guys, you paid 30m to much for him. Even against lower league sides I've never seen him have a decent game. The fact you have both him and Walcott from us was the cleverest bit of business we did in a long time. Both overrated players.

 

[Bazz]

If the football was good I'd still enjoy it. Half the bits I've watched I've had the sound off anyway, as I've been on Zoom or something at the same time, so it makes no difference to me. There's just been a lack of energy though, understandable after the lay-off and I don't think they've had many friendlies to warm up with either. That said, even before all this happened most of us agreed it was already the poorest Premier League season in many, many years.

Not for me, loved it and glad it's being finished instead of just being cast aside.

 

[Papas1982]

He brings nothing except the odd shirt sale to Nigerian supporters.

He is absolute garbage, the day you bought him from us we all celebrated. Sadly for you guys, you paid 30m to much for him. Even against lower league sides I've never seen him have a decent game. The fact you have both him and Walcott from us was the cleverest bit of business we did in a long time. Both overrated players.

i genuinely feel for Walcott. Having seen him at a young age he certainly had the talent. Wengers ego ruined him, trying to make the next Henry.

 

[fundy]

have to say Iwobi looks good in the blue of Everton (well in any club shirt thats not Arsenals really )

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I like him Honestly, have been pretty impressed with him so far, was lively at the weekend and has been excellent tonight. I like him on early form.

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Im pleased for you I really am. He does lively well, less so quality. But hey hes scored a winner in the cup, maybe we get an add on for that (surely we didnt set the bar too high)

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[Lord Tyrion]

He brings nothing except the odd shirt sale to Nigerian supporters.

He is absolute garbage, the day you bought him from us we all celebrated. Sadly for you guys, you paid 30m to much for him. Even against lower league sides I've never seen him have a decent game. The fact you have both him and Walcott from us was the cleverest bit of business we did in a long time. Both overrated players.

I feared this was the case ?.

Theo's contract must be up soon. I can't believe we will offer him another. A couple of years over in the MLS would suit him at this point I think.

Edit: just checked, he has another year to go.

 

[Dan2501]

Yeah, early transfer optimism very quickly dissipated To be fair, it was still August, and he had just scored in his first start. Went swiftly downhill from there and become obvious he doesn't really fit our system.

 

[Slime]

It's both awful standard and zero atmosphere. I must have watched 15 minutes of it since the season restarted, just got no interest in the current format.

Wow, you got that from just 15 minutes of viewing?

 

[Wolf]

I feared this was the case ?.

Theo's contract must be up soon. I can't believe we will offer him another. A couple of years over in the MLS would suit him at this point I think.

Edit: just checked, he has another year to go.

Walcott is so overrated never delivered on what was meant to be a lot of promise. Unbelievably one dimensional player as well, as winger he is diabolical when it comes to final ball. As a striker he'd be lucky to hit double figures in the best of teams. I'd probably say Iwobi is slightly better than Walcott but that's not saying much.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Merson has definitely pressed Mourinho's buttons https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53140190

 

[fundy]

Walcott is so overrated never delivered on what was meant to be a lot of promise. Unbelievably one dimensional player as well, as winger he is diabolical when it comes to final ball. As a striker he'd be lucky to hit double figures in the best of teams. I'd probably say Iwobi is slightly better than Walcott but that's not saying much.

and yet Iwobi still not fit to lace Theos boots!!!!!

 

[Wolf]

and yet Iwobi still not fit to lace Theos boots!!!!!

That's irony of it, they're as garbage as each other but at least Iwobi got that cup final goal. Sadly can't even say we're well shot if either player as we've replaced them with Pepe ?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Walcott is so overrated never delivered on what was meant to be a lot of promise. Unbelievably one dimensional player as well, as winger he is diabolical when it comes to final ball. As a striker he'd be lucky to hit double figures in the best of teams. I'd probably say Iwobi is slightly better than Walcott but that's not saying much.

Walcott can be superb in a game and then disappear for the next 2 or 3. He lacks consistency. He definitely has attributes but we don't see them often enough. Perhaps our expectations of him are too high.

At the moment I don't see Iwobi as being better. Walcott at least contributes at times, scores, sets up goals, unnerves defenders. Not often enough but certainly at times. I haven't seen any of that so far from Iwobi.

 

[fundy]

That's irony of it, they're as garbage as each other but at least Iwobi got that cup final goal. Sadly can't even say we're well shot if either player as we've replaced them with Pepe ?

best 70m dead ball specialist ive seen for a while

 

[Wolf]

Walcott can be superb in a game and then disappear for the next 2 or 3. He lacks consistency. He definitely has attributes but we don't see them often enough. Perhaps our expectations of him are too high.

At the moment I don't see Iwobi as being better. Walcott at least contributes at times, scores, sets up goals, unnerves defenders. Not often enough but certainly at times. I haven't seen any of that so far from Iwobi.

I'd disagree I don't think Walcott does unnerve defenders, at least not anymore he's unbelievably one dimensional as a footballer. Iwobi is not great but he has a little more trickery about him than Walcott but their stats for last 2 years are unbelievably similar, without looking it up i think Walcott has 1 more goal, but Iwobi has 2 more assists. You've essentially signed the same player twice ?

But I think Carlo may get more from Iwobi long term than he could Theo, just my opinion of course.

 

[Wolf]

best 70m dead ball specialist ive seen for a while

TBH I think the potential is there for Pepe as there have been some flashes of it, but its been a bigger adjustment to EPL than he probably imagined.

 

[fundy]

I'd disagree I don't think Walcott does unnerve defenders, at least not anymore he's unbelievably one dimensional as a footballer. Iwobi isnot great but he has a little more trickery about him than Walcott but their stats for last 2 years are unbelievably similar, without looking it up i think Walcott has 1 more goal, but Iwobi has 2 more assists. You've essentially signed the same player twice ?

But I think Carlo may get more from Iwobi long term than he could Theo, just my opinion of course.

Walcotts 7 or 8 years older now?

Give me 24 year old Theo over 24 year old Iwobi every day of the week and twice on Saturday lol

 

[fundy]

TBH I think the potential is there for Pepe as there have been some flashes of it, but its been a bigger adjustment to EPL than he probably imagined.

Wont be at Arsenal I dont expect, will never live up to the ridiculous price tag sadly. Pretty sure every club knows how to defend against him in open play already

 

[Wolf]

Walcotts 7 or 8 years older now?

Give me 24 year old Theo over 24 year old Iwobi every day of the week and twice on Saturday lol

You're right there, plenty of years of underachieving ahead for him again at that age. He had plenty of promise but he never really developed.

Wont be at Arsenal I dont expect, will never live up to the ridiculous price tag sadly. Pretty sure every club knows how to defend against him in open play already

I'd agree with you there. He is unbelievably easy to defend against, show him down the line and he's out of the game.

Our squad at the moment is dire so many players signed that are to easy to play against

 

[fundy]

You're right there, plenty of years of underachieving ahead for him again at that age. He had plenty of promise but he never really developed.


I'd agree with you there. He is unbelievably easy to defend against, show him down the line and he's out of the game.

Our squad at the moment is dire so many players signed that are to easy to play against

Players I rate at Arsenal:
Aubameyang (contract situ means he probably leaves in the summer)
Leno (how bads the injury)
Saka (another screwed up contract situ)
Torreira (albeit seems to be leaving)
Martinelli (albeit Id take a silly offer if one arose)
Saliba (please be that weve finally bought a proper defender)

Players that should be cashed in on:
Lacazette
Guendoozi

Players that should be removed from the wage bill if at all possible (i hesitate to say sold as wont get anything for most of them):
Ozil
Mustafi
Sokratis
Kolasinac
Bellerin
Xhaka
Chambers
Luiz
Ceballos
Mhikitaryan
Elneny

Youngsters/Still to prove:
Pepe (with a ludicrous price tag round his neck)
Tierney (another whos destined to live in the treatment room?)
Soares (another injury prone?)
Mari (another injury prone?)
Smith Rowe
Willock
Mavropanos
Maitlin Niles
Nketiah
Nelson

Pretty sure there would have been some huge changes in personnel this summer IF the last 3 mths hadnt happened, expect we just get the usual window dressing now and most of the above named are still there next year

 

[Swingalot]

Players I rate at Arsenal:
Aubameyang (contract situ means he probably leaves in the summer)
Leno (how bads the injury)
Saka (another screwed up contract situ)
Torreira (albeit seems to be leaving)
Martinelli (albeit Id take a silly offer if one arose)
Saliba (please be that weve finally bought a proper defender)

Players that should be cashed in on:
Lacazette
Guendoozi

Players that should be removed from the wage bill if at all possible (i hesitate to say sold as wont get anything for most of them):
Ozil
Mustafi
Sokratis
Kolasinac
Bellerin
Xhaka
Chambers
Luiz
Ceballos
Mhikitaryan
Elneny

Youngsters/Still to prove:
Pepe (with a ludicrous price tag round his neck)
Tierney (another whos destined to live in the treatment room?)
Soares (another injury prone?)
Mari (another injury prone?)
Smith Rowe
Willock
Mavropanos
Maitlin Niles
Nketiah
Nelson

Pretty sure there would have been some huge changes in personnel this summer IF the last 3 mths hadnt happened, expect we just get the usual window dressing now and most of the above named are still there next year

I could have named most of the Arsenal squad 20 years ago, that is just a list of names of which I recognise a handful. Truly shocking recruitment over recent year's .