Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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Tashyboy said:
Saw yesterday that newcastle are giving away half season tickets to existing season ticket holders. Has support got that bad under Ashley ?
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The official figure for attendances recently is around the 46k mark, capacity is 52k. Bearing in mind those will include season ticket holders who are not going and the club are seeing some big empty seating areas for the first time in a very long time. Don't underestimate how disliked Ashley is up here and he has just chipped away at fans year after year. They are not well organised enough to make a real difference, just don't buy a damned shirt next season people, but natural apathy has taken over.

The numbers are still good but no club likes to see empty seats and this makes some sense to fill the ground again. It wont actually be that many tickets but it does show that the casual fan has turned away from the club right now as they are not selling spare tickets normally. It is actually a bit harsh on Steve Bruce who is piggy in the middle here. He is doing an equal job to Benitez but he is just not getting the same love at this point.
 
murphthemog said:
Nagelsmann is my favourite, but then Ten Haag, Jesse Marsch, Marco Rose, and Jurgen Klopp. Can't see the last one coming. Or any of them really.

Would be ok with Arteta, or may be Poch.
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The problem is those people you mention are all at clubs that are doing far better than Arsenal and currently would be a step down

Also none of them have the level of success Ancelotti has

They are all also at clubs with different levels of expectations as well

Nagelsmann has just gone to RB Leipzig
Ten Haag has had one good season at Ajax with a once in a generation squad
Marsch has just gone to RB Salzburg and his first job in Europe as manager
Rose - another who has just gone to a new club

They are all exciting young managers who have shown potential but none established yet - are Arsenal looking to give someone time like those or someone established

As for Klopp ???

Ancelotti or Allergri are two outstanding managers available in the market - Arsenal should be straight at either

They are both far better managers than those other young guys you mention ( well apart from Klopp ? )
 
Liverpoolphil said:
The problem is those people you mention are all at clubs that are doing far better than Arsenal and currently would be a step down

Also none of them have the level of success Ancelotti has

They are all also at clubs with different levels of expectations as well

Nagelsmann has just gone to RB Leipzig
Ten Haag has had one good season at Ajax with a once in a generation squad
Marsch has just gone to RB Salzburg and his first job in Europe as manager
Rose - another who has just gone to a new club

They are all exciting young managers who have shown potential but none established yet - are Arsenal looking to give someone time like those or someone established

As for Klopp ???

Ancelotti or Allergri are two outstanding managers available in the market - Arsenal should be straight at either

They are both far better managers than those other young guys you mention ( well apart from Klopp ? )
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But that is my whole point. I want some one young, and exciting. I don't want old establishment, know what you are going to get, etc.
I want to be entertained. No club has a right to win stuff, and most won't, so what's left? Entertainment, excitement, sauce.
I know what I will get watching an Ancelotti team.
 
murphthemog said:
But that is my whole point. I want some one young, and exciting. I don't want old establishment, know what you are going to get, etc.
I want to be entertained. No club has a right to win stuff, and most won't, so what's left? Entertainment, excitement, sauce.
I know what I will get watching an Ancelotti team.
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Sorry Murph, Ole's already spoken for. :whistle:
 
murphthemog said:
But that is my whole point. I want some one young, and exciting. I don't want old establishment, know what you are going to get, etc.
I want to be entertained. No club has a right to win stuff, and most won't, so what's left? Entertainment, excitement, sauce.
I know what I will get watching an Ancelotti team.
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Have you ever seen Ancelottis teams play ?

Do you think they are defensive or something ? He is a winner - title in four different leagues , CL winner 4 times I think - always improves a team - he would get Arsenal back into the top 4 and then build to win things. He is the type of manager that Arsenal have needed for a number of years now.

Someone might be young and exciting in one league where the expectations are lower but in the Prem ? Not so much - Emery was fairly young and was exciting with Seville

If Arsenal miss out on Ancelotti then the club will suffer for a good number of years
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Have you ever seen Ancelottis teams play ?

Do you think they are defensive or something ? He is a winner - title in four different leagues , CL winner 4 times I think - always improves a team - he would get Arsenal back into the top 4 and then build to win things. He is the type of manager that Arsenal have needed for a number of years now.

Someone might be young and exciting in one league where the expectations are lower but in the Prem ? Not so much - Emery was fairly young and was exciting with Seville

If Arsenal miss out on Ancelotti then the club will suffer for a good number of years
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I actually completely agree with you here LP.

Ancelotti could effectively stabilise the team whilst bringing back a winning mentality, even if only a 2/3 tenure it could help to build a much better base for the team in future
 
murphthemog said:
But that is my whole point. I want some one young, and exciting. I don't want old establishment, know what you are going to get, etc.
I want to be entertained. No club has a right to win stuff, and most won't, so what's left? Entertainment, excitement, sauce.
I know what I will get watching an Ancelotti team.
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Nuno Santos would suit Arsenal style, and he could probably bring his midfield with him.(y)

Alternatively you could get Sean Dyche. Would sort your defence out, though you may need to get forwards a foot taller.:whistle::eek::)
 
murphthemog said:
But that is my whole point. I want some one young, and exciting. I don't want old establishment, know what you are going to get, etc.
I want to be entertained. No club has a right to win stuff, and most won't, so what's left? Entertainment, excitement, sauce.
I know what I will get watching an Ancelotti team.
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Winning honours is not what it's all about, you got that right but it's just a pity you , Arsenal Fan TV and others didn't think like that a couple of years ago.

Entertainment, excitement was Wengers hallmark but I guess top 4 just wasnt enough for some people ?
 
Stuart_C said:
He had a great game against us in the 1st game, was hugely impressed with him.

Get him bought at that price.
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That really is chicken feed in this day and age. Even punts cost double!

Cracking business
 
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