Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Deleted member 16999]

Nah, only the ones that injure nice Everton players.

Hilarious, Gomes may of had his career ended, but let’s make light of it because Son cried.

 

[Orikoru]

I think it's an enormous leap to say he was taking revenge. That's 2+2=6 at best.

 

[Tashyboy]

Using that logic every single tackle in football potentially endangers the opposition, you'd end up with no players left on the pitch.

I have never heard of fouls being upgraded to red cards depending on how injured a player is as a result, but if that is the case then it has to be one of the craziest rules in football imo.

How can you say that. Am scratching my head. Tackling like a scoring,defending etc etc it is an art. Son never tackled. He did a professional foul end of story. His professional foul, not tackle caused the injury. If you foul when trying to tackle then its yellow or red. No one wants to stop tackling, but everyone wants to stop professional cheating. That's what Son did. And as a City fan am.well qualified to judge what Son did. But this time he got it horribly wrong

 

[Tashyboy]

I think it's an enormous leap to say he was taking revenge. That's 2+2=6 at best.

Even that's arguing Ory, 2+2=5.

 

[sam85]

How can you say that. Am scratching my head. Tackling like a scoring,defending etc etc it is an art. Son never tackled. He did a professional foul end of story. His professional foul, not tackle caused the injury. If you foul when trying to tackle then its yellow or red. No one wants to stop tackling, but everyone wants to stop professional cheating. That's what Son did. And as a City fan am.well qualified to judge what Son did. But this time he got it horribly wrong

You originally quoted a post suggesting that any tackle that endangered the opposition should result in a red card, now you're saying it's a yellow or red for a foul???

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I think it's an enormous leap to say he was taking revenge. That's 2+2=6 at best.

Let's just remember the evidence

He takes players out off the ball

He gets sent off against Bournemouth for lashing out

He has a history of seeking revenge on the pitch

So 2 + 2 = 4

 

[sam85]

Is every single tackle an act of sh!thousery?

Ermm no. I'm not sure of the relevance though. Or are you now suggesting Son should of been sent off for "sh!thousery"?

 

[Orikoru]

Let's just remember the evidence

He takes players out off the ball

He gets sent off against Bournemouth for lashing out

He has a history of seeking revenge on the pitch

So 2 + 2 = 4

Sorry, I forgot lovely Snodgrass got his toe stepped on therefore Son is some sort of vindictive assassin. Give it a rest! To say Son assaulted Gomes out of retribution is a serious and completely baseless accusation. Particularly as the offence with nothing more than a sliding trip. Before fouling Gomes he was chasing the previous Everton player who had possession and simply followed the ball. He's competitive.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

You originally quoted a post suggesting that any tackle that endangered the opposition should result in a red card, now you're saying it's a yellow or red for a foul???

The post he quoted was for the definition of Serious Foul Play, not for any tackles, so surely it’s up to the Ref which tackles he deems as Serious Foul Play or not using that definition.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Sorry, I forgot lovely Snodgrass got his toe stepped on therefore Son is some sort of vindictive assassin. Give it a rest! To say Son assaulted Gomes out of retribution is a serious and completely baseless accusation. Particularly as the offence with nothing more than a sliding trip. Before fouling Gomes he was chasing the previous Everton player who had possession and simply followed the ball. He's competitive.

He got elbowed in the face by Gomez earlier in the game

What a coincidence he suddenly leaves a late one on him

 

[Orikoru]

He got elbowed in the face by Gomez earlier in the game

What a coincidence he suddenly leaves a late one on him

Again, to say it's not a coincidence is 2+2=5.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Ermm no. I'm not sure of the relevance though. Or are you now suggesting Son should of been sent off for "sh!thousery"?

No, I’m suggesting Son had no intention of going for the ball only the man, I totally agree accidents can happen in a fair tackle, as I’ve put above the Serious Foul Play comes in to it as a result of what the Ref see’s in this case, I believe he saw an intentional foul were son had no intention of playing the ball, once he’s seen Gomes injury he’s then, imo, and from the FA Statement believed that the tackle was a lot worse than he first thought and met the criteria for a Red Card.
The Ref didn’t have 20 replays showing when the break occurred or how, just one view of the tackle and then seen the result when he got to Gomes.

 

[Orikoru]

We're getting sidetracked anyway to be honest. Even if Son deliberately seeked out Gomes and deliberately tripped him up, the actual tackle that he made is STILL only a yellow card offence. It's really that simple. The ban should be overturned.

 

[Orikoru]

The Ref didn’t have 20 replays showing when the break occurred or how, just one view of the tackle and then seen the result when he got to Gomes.

If only there was some kind of technology for watching incidents back to help him arrive at the correct decision.

 

[Papas1982]

No, I’m suggesting Son had no intention of going for the ball only the man, I totally agree accidents can happen in a fair tackle, as I’ve put above the Serious Foul Play comes in to it as a result of what the Ref see’s in this case, I believe he saw an intentional foul were son had no intention of playing the ball, once he’s seen Gomes injury he’s then, imo, and from the FA Statement believed that the tackle was a lot worse than he first thought and met the criteria for a Red Card.
The Ref didn’t have 20 replays showing when the break occurred or how, just one view of the tackle and then seen the result when he got to Gomes.

I think all the above is a much fairer review. I could see how if he (ref) felt the break occurred when Son connected that a red was warranted.
Of course if var had looked then it would quickly have shown what had occurred.

I just think the ref changing his mind and then the statement after the fact is where the refs have got it wrong.

 

[clubchamp98]

Is there any reason why a referee cant pull a massive smart phone out of his pocket and instantly review a VAR decision rather than run the length of a pitch to view a 32 inch screen which they seem reluctant to do as it seemly takes too long to do?

The tech is here to run this show much better yet they seem to be making a complete pigs ear of it.

It can’t be more than 60yds max from the ref anywhere on the pitch.
Surely he can run that far in 15 seconds.

If the club has one just show it on the big screen at least the fans will see what he sees.
They are just making excuses for bad calls.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

We're getting sidetracked anyway to be honest. Even if Son deliberately seeked out Gomes and deliberately tripped him up, the actual tackle that he made is STILL only a yellow card offence. It's really that simple. The ban should be overturned.

The refs have come out and said that injury is taken into account so it's a red

Regardless of what you or pundits think the refs enforce what their told

Remember why the pundits went on and on about daylight in the offside rule. It's never been in the rule!!

They talk gibberish

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Explaining Atkinson's decision, the Premier League said: "The red card for Son was for endangering the safety of a player, which happened as a consequence of his initial challenge."

 

[Deleted member 18588]

The refs have come out and said that injury is taken into account so it's a red

Regardless of what you or pundits think the refs enforce what their told

Remember why the pundits went on and on about daylight in the offside rule. It's never been in the rule!!

They talk gibberish

But as far as I am aware there is no Law of Football that states the outcome rather than the nature of the foul should determine the punishment.

It all rather smacks of the matchday referee panicking and making an emotional decision when he saw the extent of Gomes' injury.

Subsequently the authorities have come to his rescue.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

It can’t be more than 60yds max from the ref anywhere on the pitch.
Surely he can run that far in 15 seconds.

If the club has one just show it on the big screen at least the fans will see what he sees.
They are just making excuses for bad calls.

Can you imagine the abuse on Sunday if they showed the penalty shout on a big screen and then didn't give it? I'm not sure a football crowd is ready for that, sad to say.