Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Deleted member 1740]

Only real solution is to play it on the day it's scheduled for and let the under 21's manager take his side to play it.

I cant see PL postponing a game fora league cup tie.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Is there any reason they can't do the game earlier? Just play it during the international break - on the plus side, Henderson won't be able to play for England. Win win.

Theres an International rule somewhere about domestic top flight games arent allowed to be played on the same day as international and CL matchdays.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I’m sure teams that have won the treble before have had similar.

Win your CL groups quickly and try not to let games go to extra time in other cups.
Use weakened teams against lesser opposition.
Don’t go on pre season tours
Don’t put International friendlies on during the season.

Obviously clubs have duties to sponsors and fans.
I suppose it’s a vicious circle.
I remember when Klopp first came to England he was asked why England struggled in WC or EC and he said then we play to many games and the season was to long.

Yernited played 5 league games in the same period when they played in it.

Liverpool played 8 league games in the same period in 2005 when we played in it.

There too much football crammed into a small amount of time.

 

[4LEX]

The PL will move a game - much easier to put a league game back than a cup tie which has deadlines.

And a big laugh at whoever suggested letting the U21 side and manager represent the club. It wasn't long ago Liverpool's only genuine chance of silverware was this trophy. Just think back to the incredible Dalglish side that managed to beat a Championship side at Wembley.......

Amazing what one major trophy in over a decade does to the ego of some fans

 

[Deleted member 1740]

The PL will move a game - much easier to put a league game back than a cup tie which has deadlines.

And a big laugh at whoever suggested letting the U21 side and manager represent the club. It wasn't long ago Liverpool's only genuine chance of silverware was this trophy. Just think back to the incredible Dalglish side that managed to beat a Championship side at Wembley.......

Amazing what one major trophy in over a decade does to the ego of some fans

I suggested that as it was the only viable solution if the game has to be played in that week. Nothing to do with ego's.

I can remember when we weren't even good enough to win this competition, getting knocked out by the formiddable opponents Northampton under Hodgson.

Fwiw, i'd rather we never had to go to Qatar, but like most competitions, theres too much money to turn down.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Is there any reason they can't do the game earlier? Just play it during the international break - on the plus side, Henderson won't be able to play for England. Win win.

Henderson wont be in the cup team, it will be the youngsters in the main.

 

[Tashyboy]

Yernited played 5 league games in the same period when they played in it.

Liverpool played 8 league games in the same period in 2005 when we played in it.

There too much football crammed into a small amount of time.

Am sure when I posted the original link from the BBC, Klopp was quoted as saying when he first came that the reason England do nowt is because of the amount of football this country plays. He is proper gone find out this winter.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Wembley probably organises itself and events a fair bit in advance. Not really reasonable to expect them to rearrange in case an English team wins CL.

Worse case field the kids.

Then play it at another stadium - the EFL brought the comp forward to have it done by Feb - a team shouldn’t have to sacrifice a competition or chose between the two - it’s almost like being punished for winning a big comp. The should have looked at the schedule this year as soon as there was a chance an English team was going to win.

It’s going to get to the stage where the Prem clubs will just bin it off , it’s not really needed as a comp and I don’t know many other countries that have two domestic cups.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Quarter-final ties:
Oxford United v Manchester City

Manchester United v Colchester United

Aston Villa v Liverpool

Everton v Leicester City

Al take that

Was hoping that having come this far we'd draw a big team but I guess I'll have to settle for a winnable game instead.

On a more serious note hopefully Man Utd v Colchester will be the live TV match to add a few more quid to our bank account. I'm not expecting us to get a result but if we can avoid an embarrassing defeat and increase the bank balance then I'll be happy.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Then play it at another stadium - the EFL brought the comp forward to have it done by Feb - a team shouldn’t have to sacrifice a competition or chose between the two - it’s almost like being punished for winning a big comp. The should have looked at the schedule this year as soon as there was a chance an English team was going to win.

It’s going to get to the stage where the Prem clubs will just bin it off , it’s not really needed as a comp and I don’t know many other countries that have two domestic cups.

Really? Bin what is still a showpiece final and has European connotations to another station. Daft

 

[Papas1982]

Then play it at another stadium - the EFL brought the comp forward to have it done by Feb - a team shouldn’t have to sacrifice a competition or chose between the two - it’s almost like being punished for winning a big comp. The should have looked at the schedule this year as soon as there was a chance an English team was going to win.

It’s going to get to the stage where the Prem clubs will just bin it off , it’s not really needed as a comp and I don’t know many other countries that have two domestic cups.

A season won't be dictated by the off chance a club has success that may cause issues. I'm sure changes will be made if at all possible. But if they change it now, then other teams will be getting messed about to help out Liverpool.

"big" teams used to bin it off. But with more and more competition all of a sudden they seem to have paid more attention to it as trophies do still count. Even if its the least important.

Any club is free to opt out of a comp or field a team which makes it likely they'll go out if its such a burden. A team competing on 5 fronts has to accept it'll be a busy time once the later stage of comps come around.

It sounds simply to put it back a month and then what if there are conflicts with fa Cup or CL games....

 

[fundy]

A season won't be dictated by the off chance a club has success that may cause issues. I'm sure changes will be made if at all possible. But if they change it now, then other teams will be getting messed about to help out Liverpool.

"big" teams used to bin it off. But with more and more competition all of a sudden they seem to have paid more attention to it as trophies do still count. Even if its the least important.

Any club is free to opt out of a comp or field a team which makes it likely they'll go out if its such a burden. A team competing on 5 fronts has to accept it'll be a busy time once the later stage of comps come around.

It sounds simply to put it back a month and then what if there are conflicts with fa Cup or CL games....

oh come on, they put out a side to concede 5 in the last round and that still didnt work

 

[Deleted member 15344]

A season won't be dictated by the off chance a club has success that may cause issues. I'm sure changes will be made if at all possible. But if they change it now, then other teams will be getting messed about to help out Liverpool.

"big" teams used to bin it off. But with more and more competition all of a sudden they seem to have paid more attention to it as trophies do still count. Even if its the least important.

Any club is free to opt out of a comp or field a team which makes it likely they'll go out if its such a burden. A team competing on 5 fronts has to accept it'll be a busy time once the later stage of comps come around.

It sounds simply to put it back a month and then what if there are conflicts with fa Cup or CL games....

It should have been looked at when UTD pulled out of the FA Cup - the League imo has run its coirse somewhat , yeah it’s a always nice to win a trophy but if it was stopped being played for would it really matter ?

What other country has two domestic cups - next year a winter break starts to help , remove the League Cup would help even more - especially when most clubs just played second string teams anyway.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

This makes depressing reading https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50063299

 

[Papas1982]

It should have been looked at when UTD pulled out of the FA Cup - the League imo has run its coirse somewhat , yeah it’s a always nice to win a trophy but if it was stopped being played for would it really matter ?

What other country has two domestic cups - next year a winter break starts to help , remove the League Cup would help even more - especially when most clubs just played second string teams anyway.

Sorry but that's a blinkered outlook typical of a supporter who's been lucky to have his team win multiple trophies.

Just watch the news today and see colchesters players reaction to drawing Utd.

There have been two conflicts in 20 years. That's hardly a reason to cancel cups. Especially when they're different competitions!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Sorry but that's a blinkered outlook typical of a supporter who's been lucky to have his team win multiple trophies.

Just watch the news today and see colchesters players reaction to drawing Utd.

There have been two conflicts in 20 years. That's hardly a reason to cancel cups. Especially when they're different competitions!

Can still get that reaction if they get drawn in the FA Cup - why do we have two domestic cups when other nations have one ?

 

[Papas1982]

Can still get that reaction if they get drawn in the FA Cup - why do we have two domestic cups when other nations have one ?

Yes. But it's happened twice in 20 years. That's not a reason to scrap it.

Why do we play on boxing day, or have better away support in the league than all. Other European countries? Quite simply beciase football is different everywhere. Why should we change because of an anomaly?

But if I had to think of a reason, I'd say its because we have more leagues and it's the League Cup after all.

Maybe make it open to all who wish to play and if the big teams want to dip out they can. But only for 3 year periods and not just one season when it's an inconvenience....

 

[Deleted member 1740]

oh come on, they put out a side to concede 5 in the last round and that still didnt work

And played, an inelligible player in the round before. You'd think he'd had an agenda to get out of the competition asap 😄

 

[Tashyboy]

Was hoping that having come this far we'd draw a big team but I guess I'll have to settle for a winnable game instead.

On a more serious note hopefully Man Utd v Colchester will be the live TV match to add a few more quid to our bank account. I'm not expecting us to get a result but if we can avoid an embarrassing defeat and increase the bank balance then I'll be happy.

Flippin eck I had to read that twice, I thought Slime had wrote it.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I can't see any justification to allow PL (or any other side) to opt out the league cup. It is still a great source of revenue for the lower league sides to get a PL side at home (and the TV money) and gives them a real chance of a giant kill over a potentially weaker PL line-up. I get the issue Klopp is talking about but a PL game has to be easier to mover (and gives Sky another viewing option later in the year if Liverpool are going for the title so surely a win-win)