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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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Papas1982 said:
Yes. But it's happened twice in 20 years. That's not a reason to scrap it.

Why do we play on boxing day, or have better away support in the league than all. Other European countries? Quite simply beciase football is different everywhere. Why should we change because of an anomaly?

But if I had to think of a reason, I'd say its because we have more leagues and it's the League Cup after all.

Maybe make it open to all who wish to play and if the big teams want to dip out they can. But only for 3 year periods and not just one season when it's an inconvenience....
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Our players play more than any other European players - they are already looking to make changes by bringing in a break mid season

Spain have loads of leagues , Italy as well

This is a cup for just four leagues when there is already one cup

So what would really happen if it was cancelled - May help all the teams , may help the national team

It’s mainly won by the big teams anyway
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Our players play more than any other European players - they are already looking to make changes by bringing in a break mid season

Spain have loads of leagues , Italy as well

This is a cup for just four leagues when there is already one cup

So what would really happen if it was cancelled - May help all the teams , may help the national team

It’s mainly won by the big teams anyway
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It generates a lot of money for smaller clubs when they come up against the big clubs.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50257148

OK so ive been quite critical of Xhaka as a player for the last couple of years and more recently of him being captain at Arsenal. I thought his actions last week were bang out of order. Having read this and having no reason not to assume what he says is true then I totally understand why he reacted the way he did.

I have no problem with booing a sportsman if I think they arent putting it all in as a paying fan (I know others disagree with this). Thats as far as the line goes for me.

I have also commented that we have more than our fair share of idiots (partly emphasised by the Fan TV show) but this just underlines it sadly (as does some of our fans having a go at Aubameyang of all people the other night!). Threatening or wishing badly of a players wife and children is just utterly ridiculously beyond acceptable and a sad indictment of some of our fan base (and some people in this country generally)

Wont change my opinion of him as a footballer, it will change my opinion of how he deals with it
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Our players play more than any other European players - they are already looking to make changes by bringing in a break mid season

Spain have loads of leagues , Italy as well

This is a cup for just four leagues when there is already one cup

So what would really happen if it was cancelled - May help all the teams , may help the national team

It’s mainly won by the big teams anyway
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The Spain isn’t league system is nothing like ours. The lower tiers are feeder systems at best.

As to scrapping the cup to help the national team, that’s based on what? I’d argue the extra revenue helps all teams below the premier league. So scrapping it would at best help the top 20%

There are 92 teams that enter the league cup. I’m pretty sure at least 72 don’t consider it a cup they aren’t interested in. In fact is say that number is nearer 80.

And as I’ve repeated. All of this after one cup clash in its history.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
And almost a conspiracy to keep them in. I still think, had that been a lower league club they would have been chucked out
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They wouldnt have. Iirc It was international paperwork that had been requested. Apparently there was an investigation and quote

The EFL said in a statement: “Following a comprehensive review of all the evidence, the board determined that it wasn’t appropriate to expel the club from the competition because of a number of mitigating factors.”
 
fundy said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50257148

OK so ive been quite critical of Xhaka as a player for the last couple of years and more recently of him being captain at Arsenal. I thought his actions last week were bang out of order. Having read this and having no reason not to assume what he says is true then I totally understand why he reacted the way he did.

I have no problem with booing a sportsman if I think they arent putting it all in as a paying fan (I know others disagree with this). Thats as far as the line goes for me.

I have also commented that we have more than our fair share of idiots (partly emphasised by the Fan TV show) but this just underlines it sadly (as does some of our fans having a go at Aubameyang of all people the other night!). Threatening or wishing badly of a players wife and children is just utterly ridiculously beyond acceptable and a sad indictment of some of our fan base (and some people in this country generally)

Wont change my opinion of him as a footballer, it will change my opinion of how he deals with it
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Haha fair share of idiots? You are one of them lol.

How do you know that Xhaka doesn’t see the crap that you spout on here about him?

Not quite the same as wishing his wife gets cancer but constant petty criticism is unhelpful, especially when half the time it’s not even justified.
 
I have no problem with fixture congestion per se, just suck it up and get on with it, but if you have to play a game 24 or 48 hours after another one, thats not right for me.

I know City have to do it and we had to last year (due to telly), but that is dangerous for players. We even had to play Ipswich 24 hours after another game years ago, now thats just wrong.
 
Liverbirdie said:
I have no problem with fixture congestion per se, just suck it up and get on with it, but if you have to play a game 24 or 48 hours after another one, thats not right for me.

I know City have to do it and we had to last year (due to telly), but that is dangerous for players. We even had to play Ipswich 24 hours after another game years ago, now thats just wrong.
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The issue is fitting a game in between the fixtures as they stand now. I cant see the PL moving a PL game to help the EFL.

Would villa be able to reject certain dates due to them being the home side?
 
Stuart_C said:
The issue is fitting a game in between the fixtures as they stand now. I cant see the PL moving a PL game to help the EFL.

Would villa be able to reject certain dates due to them being the home side?
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Thats what Ipswich did to us (2001, possibly), so we played on the Sunday and the Monday iirc.
 
Liverbirdie said:
Thats what Ipswich did to us (2001, possibly), so we played on the Sunday and the Monday iirc.
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Didnt we play Ipswich last game of the season?? TBH that season was a blur only missed two games that year home and away😀

It was Charlton Last game of that season. We played Ipswich 48 hours after the semi final against Wycombe. Sunday/ Tuesday.
 
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Stuart_C said:
Didnt we play Ipswich last game of the season?? TBH that season was a blur only missed two games that year home and away😀

It was Charlton Last game of that season. We played Ipswich 48 hours after the semi final against Wycombe. Sunday/ Tuesday.
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Yep, your right it was 48 hours later, but want last game of the season that was Charlton in the league.

Are we the only club to do 2 x trebles? :)

The Alaves final was a cracking trip, although on the day I had the wildies, so spent one half of the day in the main square and the other half on the loo of some German underground car park.
 
Stuart_C said:
Didnt we play Ipswich last game of the season?? TBH that season was a blur only missed two games that year home and away😀

It was Charlton Last game of that season. We played Ipswich 48 hours after the semi final against Wycombe. Sunday/ Tuesday.
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Here we go again, everyday........talking about you lot.;):geek:
 
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