Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Liverbirdie]

I’m not sure it is with all Clubs tbh Pete.
Sometimes it’s born out of frustration of seeing top players perform week in, week out at Club level and are ignored by England.

I think it is for the majority, but probably not all.

Over the last 30 years I think us (obviously), United (definitely - remember the Argentina chants?) and Everton in the old days. Maybe slightly lesser for the London clubs such as Arsenal and Chelsea, but I would still bet a pound to a penny that in their good years that their club side was their priority over their national side in terms of interest and attendance.

Probably the same for City now as well.

 

[clubchamp98]

It’s not about being automatic playing just because you are at a big club - I would play Gomez over Keane even if he was at the bottom club , he is a better player , Gomez doesn’t get into the squad just because he is at Liverpool, he gets into the squad because he is one of the best english CB’s

He played about two / three weeks ago can’t remember who against and he just didn’t look right to me.
Maybe the injury is still in his head.
He does rely on his speed but it might take time for a full recovery.
Your right Matip deserved his place he has played very well.

 

[clubchamp98]

I’m not sure it is with all Clubs tbh Pete.
Sometimes it’s born out of frustration of seeing top players perform week in, week out at Club level and are ignored by England.

I think sometimes as soon as some put the England shirt on they become half the player the fans see every week.
But totally agree there are a lot better players playing than that team yesterday.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I think it is for the majority, but probably not all.

Over the last 30 years I think us (obviously), United (definitely - remember the Argentina chants?) and Everton in the old days. Maybe slightly lesser for the London clubs such as Arsenal and Chelsea, but I would still bet a pound to a penny that in their good years that their club side was their priority over their national side in terms of interest and attendance.

I’d agree it’s a priority, especially as Clubs have suffered due to injuries done when away.
Utd fans seemed to turn away on mass when Bruce and Pallister were ignored and yet they were the best English pairing in the League.

 

[Liverbirdie]

I’d agree it’s a priority, especially as Clubs have suffered due to injuries done when away.
Utd fans seemed to turn away on mass when Bruce and Pallister were ignored and yet they were the best English pairing in the League.

I think your wrong on United fans timing, I think it was after Beckham getting blamed for Engalnd's exit after his sending off, followed by Phil Neville's blaming for giving that penalty away in another major championship, and subsequent booing of United players in other games.

Lets face it most England fans who attend games are divvies.

 

[Slime]

I think your wrong on United fans timing, I think it was after Beckham getting blamed for Engalnd's exit after his sending off, followed by Phil Neville's blaming for giving that penalty away in another major championship, and subsequent booing of United players in other games.

Lets face it most England fans who attend games are divvies.

Why do you think that?

 

[Liverbirdie]

Why do you think that?

Why do you not think that, based on 30 years of seeing non-sports new coverage of England games, and dont give me "its a small minority" tripe.

 

[Slime]

I'd say the minority of attending England fans may be 'divvies', but the majority are genuine England football fans who enjoy supporting their nation.
Why is that tripe?

 

[Liverbirdie]

I'd say the minority of attending England fans may be 'divvies', but the majority are genuine England football fans who enjoy supporting their nation.
Why is that tripe?

So why have I often seen hundreds and even thousands ripping up foreign capital cities then?

Thats even before going into 2 world wars, german bombers, IRA songs, anti-Man U songs, anti-scouse and I'm sure much more. No problem with England cricket, Rugby and most other sports but the footy fans are a different breed.

 

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[Deleted member 16999]

Why do you not think that, based on 30 years of seeing non-sports new coverage of England games, and dont give me "its a small minority" tripe.

Sadly it began with Club supporters misbehaving in Europe first, look at the trouble caused in the 70’s abroad.
It’s semantics on how large a minority is, but I wouldn’t tar all those going abroad with the same brush.

 

[Slime]

So why have I often seen hundreds and even thousands ripping up foreign capital cities then?

Thats even before going into 2 world wars, german bombers, IRA songs, anti-Man U songs, anti-scouse and I'm sure much more. No problem with England cricket, Rugby and most other sports but the footy fans are a different breed.

Surely you realise that they are the minority.
Anyway, I don't want to get involved in another spat.
Let's just accept that our opinions differ somewhat.

 

[Orikoru]

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That's completely false, McTominay's hit against Arsenal was in September. They got 4 goals in September. I don't know why people just make stuff up in Tweets and people share them without even checking.

Regarding England's centre backs, I do think Gomez would be starting but you need to be starting for your club to be starting for England. That's the way it should be I think.

 

[pokerjoke]

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LP the gift that keeps on giving
Numpty

 

[Deleted member 15344]

That's completely false, McTominay's hit against Arsenal was in September. They got 4 goals in September. I don't know why people just make stuff up in Tweets and people share them without even checking.

Regarding England's centre backs, I do think Gomez would be starting but you need to be starting for your club to be starting for England. That's the way it should be I think.

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ It’s a joke

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Sky Sports News reporting Mings to make his debut tomorrow against Bulgaria..............Please let it be in place of Keane.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Sky Sports News reporting Mings to make his debut tomorrow against Bulgaria..............Please let it be in place of Keane.

Maguire won’t be getting dropped.

It’s ok Southgate (or any other manager) giving youngsters a chance but they’ve got to be good enough.

 

[Orikoru]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ It’s a joke


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Jokes normally include some sort of humour to let you know it's a joke. If I wrote a tweet that said Salah still hadn't scored this season would that be a joke? You could always just admit you were fooled by a fake news tweet.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Jokes normally include some sort of humour to let you know it's a joke. If I wrote a tweet that said Salah still hadn't scored this season would that be a joke? You could always just admit you were fooled by a fake news tweet.

To be fair the joke was posted by the person on here with the least sense of humour who can't take banta so he prob thought it was hilarious

Bless him

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Jokes normally include some sort of humour to let you know it's a joke. If I wrote a tweet that said Salah still hadn't scored this season would that be a joke? You could always just admit you were fooled by a fake news tweet.

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Do you really not get it ? Come on ?
oh and it wasn’t a tweet - WhatS App from a Manc fan 🙄

To be fair the joke was posted by the person on here with the least sense of humour who can't take banta so he prob thought it was hilarious

Bless him

It’s always you isn’t it - for some reason you feel obliged to make it about the poster - that’s your level of input , well done 🙄