Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[sawtooth]

It should be mandatory.
If you refuse you are going to jail.
As long as everyone knows you can’t complain then.
Driving laws are a bit of a joke you can really get away with murder.

Disgraceful decision really. What message is this sending out to would be drink drivers?

Refuse a sample and you will most likely avoid a jail sentence.

They should have jailed him and anyone else who drink drives or refuses to give a sample.

 

[clubchamp98]

Disgraceful decision really. What message is this sending out to would be drink drivers?

Refuse a sample and you will most likely avoid a jail sentence.

They should have jailed him and anyone else who drink drives or refuses to give a sample.

They did jail him but unfortunately the well off have very good briefs and seem to get away with it.
If that’s an ordinary working man he’s in jail.

 

[Fish]

They did jail him but unfortunately the well off have very good briefs and seem to get away with it.
If that’s an ordinary working man he’s in jail.

No he’s not, you do not get jailed automatically for refusing a breath test, you simply get charged as guilty as it’s an admission of guilt and are fast tracked to court for a minimum 12 month ban plus fine & costs.

He obviously got jailed for a combination of other things, his attitude being a major contribution to that b

 

[clubchamp98]

No he’s not, you do not get jailed automatically for refusing a breath test, you simply get charged as guilty as it’s an admission of guilt and are fast tracked to court for a minimum 12 month ban plus fine & costs.

He obviously got jailed for a combination of other things, his attitude being a major contribution to that b

Yes he is!
I never said you do ? I think you should that’s just my opinion.
If I did what he did and got 10 days in jail ,I havnt got the money for a top barrister to get me off = jail.

 

[Fish]

Yes he is!
I never said you do ? I think you should that’s just my opinion.
If I did what he did and got 10 days in jail ,I havnt got the money for a top barrister to get me off = jail.

You said ‘If that’s an ordinary working man he’s in jail’, that’s not an opinion, that’s a statement of fact, which is incorrect as per my response.

Many people refuse to blow both at the roadside and in the main machine at the station, which you have to do as well as the roadside as that’s only an indicator, although a pretty accurate one to arrest someone.

If they refuse to blow in the main machine also you're locked up until the desk believes you’re sober and then charged for refusing to give a sample which is a mandatory 12 month ban by the magistrates courts, there is never a question of going to jail for refusing to give a sample, unless there are many other mitigating circumstances, which obviously there were with his refusal to comply with anything without a solicitor, which isn’t allowed in these circumstances as it delays the readings, although I think he would have still blowed over in the morning watching the video, but I would ‘assume’ he still refused in the morning after being charged.

You can be offered a blood sample to be sent away and you declare what you believe you have eaten & drank in the last 12/24 hours and it’s sent away for analysis and again is wholly accepted by the courts as correct, this is when you believe you have been spiked and have consumed alcohol unwittingly.

Your highlighted reply was in response to Sean who inferred that everyone who refuses to blow should be jailed, which as you said, he was, but obviously not just for refusing to blow, so him having access to expensive lawyers is a mute point, otherwise it would be mandatory for everyone who refuses to give a sample, which it isn’t.

Should it be, controversially I don’t think so, it’s simply an admission of guilt and can actually save police time and money by not giving a sample so you just receive your mandatory 12 month ban plus fine & costs, the only caveat being if it’s not a first time offence then the mandatory ban is increased to a minimum of 3 years.

There’s never a question of jail unless there are other mitigating circumstances, such as drugs found also or if involved in a collision, but if it’s a routine (suspicious) stop and then a refusal to give a sample, your technically and automatically simply banning yourself.

Obviously the other scenario that omits all this confrontation at the roadside and in the station, is having a zero tolerance and removing the allowed amount of alcohol that be consumed, but that’s a complete different conversation for a different thread and topic.

 

[clubchamp98]

You said ‘If that’s an ordinary working man he’s in jail’, that’s not an opinion, that’s a statement of fact, which is incorrect as per my response.

Many people refuse to blow both at the roadside and in the main machine at the station, which you have to do as well as the roadside as that’s only an indicator, although a pretty accurate one to arrest someone.

If they refuse to blow in the main machine also you're locked up until the desk believes you’re sober and then charged for refusing to give a sample which is a mandatory 12 month ban by the magistrates courts, there is never a question of going to jail for refusing to give a sample, unless there are many other mitigating circumstances, which obviously there were with his refusal to comply with anything without a solicitor, which isn’t allowed in these circumstances as it delays the readings, although I think he would have still blowed over in the morning watching the video, but I would ‘assume’ he still refused in the morning after being charged.

You can be offered a blood sample to be sent away and you declare what you believe you have eaten & drank in the last 12/24 hours and it’s sent away for analysis and again is wholly accepted by the courts as correct, this is when you believe you have been spiked and have consumed alcohol unwittingly.

Your highlighted reply was in response to Sean who inferred that everyone who refuses to blow should be jailed, which as you said, he was, but obviously not just for refusing to blow, so him having access to expensive lawyers is a mute point, otherwise it would be mandatory for everyone who refuses to give a sample, which it isn’t.

Should it be, controversially I don’t think so, it’s simply an admission of guilt and can actually save police time and money by not giving a sample so you just receive your mandatory 12 month ban plus fine & costs, the only caveat being if it’s not a first time offence then the mandatory ban is increased to a minimum of 3 years.

There’s never a question of jail unless there are other mitigating circumstances, such as drugs found also or if involved in a collision, but if it’s a routine (suspicious) stop and then a refusal to give a sample, your technically and automatically simply banning yourself.

Obviously the other scenario that omits all this confrontation at the roadside and in the station, is having a zero tolerance and removing the allowed amount of alcohol that be consumed, but that’s a complete different conversation for a different thread and topic.

I think you read my post wrong or I never phrased it properly.
If I did exactly the same as him and was given 10 days in jail .
I can’t afford a fancy lawyer to appeal and get me out.
So I am in jail that’s the difference.

And deservedly so imo.

It had nothing to do with the letter of the law!

 

[fundy]

that looks pretty nasty for Lloris, your arms not supposed to bend like that

 

[Norrin Radd]

Brighton are carving a new one for Spurs at the moment ,could end up a total thrashing at this rate.
Seagulls !!!!!

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Brighton certainly deserve this, something drastically wrong at spurs though.

 

[anotherdouble]

Brighton certainly deserve this, something drastically wrong at spurs though.

Perhaps fam the manager is not the messiah the fans thought he was or the players aren’t as good as the fans thought they were or a mixture of both. Who knows🤷‍♂️ But I bet Hong Kong phooey knows👍

 

[USER1999]

I wonder if not winning anything has finally broken the bond that made it work.

 

[Reemul]

Personally if everyone that refuses a roadside and breath test at the station is getting jail time so should Saunders, not because he is an arse, ignorant, rude, beligerent etc.

Now no one else does, guy i used to work with caught 3 times over 10 years and never went to jail, now he should have been jailed.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

@Orikoru , begining of last season when you spent nothing I said you need to spend at least 50 million to stand still in this league

Looks like I was right..you have defo gone backwards past 18 months

10 goals in a week?!

 

[anotherdouble]

@Orikoru , begining of last season when you spent nothing I said you need to spend at least 50 million to stand still in this league

Looks like I was right..you have defo gone backwards past 18 months

10 goals in a week?!

Was that the same person who said something along the lines of ‘why do we need to buy as we have 2 players for every position and it’s not worth buying top players who will just sit on the bench’

 

[Deleted member 1418]

At this rate Poch will be gone before OGS - who would've seen that coming!! 😂😂

 

[Deleted member 21784]

At this rate Poch will be gone before OGS - who would've seen that coming!! 😂😂

I get that shock wins happen in football

But to follow up the other night with that is awful

Brighton deserve their credit they made spurs look like school kids

The manor of these defeats is worrying

 

[Orikoru]

@Orikoru , begining of last season when you spent nothing I said you need to spend at least 50 million to stand still in this league

Looks like I was right..you have defo gone backwards past 18 months

10 goals in a week?!

We spent money this time. We were better off when we didn't.

Worst performance I've seen in a long long time. We are carrying way too many bodies at the moment. Only 3 or 4 of them actually look arsed. Our team peaked when we came 2nd behind Chelsea and it's nearly the end now. Poch will go, several players will go and we'll need to start building from scratch under a new boss. These things happen.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

@Orikoru , begining of last season when you spent nothing I said you need to spend at least 50 million to stand still in this league

Looks like I was right..you have defo gone backwards past 18 months

10 goals in a week?!

18 months ? Really ? They may have had a poor start to the season this year but last year they were comfortable top 4 in the league and reached CL Final , this season they have gone backwards no doubt

 

[anotherdouble]

Well I suppose these star players did win you the Audi cup for the cabinet.

 

[Orikoru]

18 months ? Really ? They may have had a poor start to the season this year but last year they were comfortable top 4 in the league and reached CL Final , this season they have gone backwards no doubt

The cracks were there last season, this calendar year I'd say. We got top four just because Utd and Arsenal were somehow even worse than us. Lot of luck involved in the Champs League run.