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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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Just seen the result, that is unbelievable! Don't feel quite as bad about Bayern humping us. I think most people believed they were past their peak... but are they really this good?
 
Just seen the result, that is unbelievable! Don't feel quite as bad about Bayern humping us. I think most people believed they were past their peak... but are they really this good?
Unlike some teams (some close to your heart), bayern have been pretty good at adding a couple of players a year to keep their average age down.
Having said that, rather like psg, their track record at the pointy end has not been great recently.
Looks like being an interesting finale though, and whatever the views on RBL, good to see a different club in the mix.
 
Just seen the result, that is unbelievable! Don't feel quite as bad about Bayern humping us. I think most people believed they were past their peak... but are they really this good?
They were fabulous going forward, shaky at the back. Don't underestimate how bad Barcelona were last night, second half in particular.

I don't think you can fully judge Bayern based on last night but they are clearly purring nicely.
 
I'll be surprised if the manager survives this. Messi's face was a picture and as talented as he is he can't do it all and the defence looked like a pub team. That said Bayern were ruthless and had so much pace and penetration going forward and they are definitely playing some great football in the CL and Bundesliga
 
Never watched game and only seen the result, just seen Sterlings miss???
 
Pep has to be questioned here, both tactically and in the transfer market. Last night City were a little unlucky, a strange game. The scoreline flattered Lyon big time.

You can't dispute City have been brilliant to watch over the last 3-4 years but they're so one dimensional and without the cutting edge of Ageuro, they're really Arsenal from 2007-2012. Possession, nothing upfront, dodgy defence and rely on individual brilliance to win games.

For a manager to have spent that much on defenders and end up with the set they've got is shocking. Mendy, Walker, Stones, Laporte and Cancelo....£250m worth of nothing. Only Laporte or Walker could be considered half decent buys. He's not even going to replace Silva and the new winger is a 50/50 budget signing at best.

Throw in bizarre tactics and a failure in the CL. Ignore the tinpot stuff like League Cups and even the FA Cups, Pep was bought in to win the elite trophies. His domestic record is average (2/4) titles and his CL one is woeful. He's obviously a great manager but maybe he's going the same way as Mourinho - a one trick pony who has been found out? Does he really need a year off, freshen up and to come back with a new challenge?

City need to buy a world class CB, winger and striker or they'll go the same way next season. Dominate games, smash the crap sides but get found out when it counts. I really hoped they'd at least ace Bayern but now the CL looks so poor on paper. Roll on next season and please let Bayern win it and beat PSG by a large margin!
 
pretty sure the keeper needs a chunk of the responsibility too

so Pep, Sterling, Ederson and VAR :)

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I havent seen any of it except Sterlings miss but reading various pieces Pep's taking a bit of a beating.

Seeing Pep's record In europe since the last time he won it with Barca, you could get it mixed up with Wenger's ??
 
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I havent seen any of it except Sterlings miss but reading various pieces Pep's taking a bit of a beating.

Seeing Pep's record In europe since the last time he won it with Barca, you could get it mixed up with Wenger's ??


well he picked 7 defensive players, KDB, Sterling and Jesus and then refused to change when they went behind lol, players looked uncomfortable with the formation but ultimately a couple of individual errors from the keeper and Sterlings miss cost them massively in a game they still shouldve won

that said the way they played last night they wouldnt have come close to living with Bayern
 
Apparently it was VAR ?‍♂️

:LOL:
In fairness that VAR decision for offside/foul for their 2nd goal could have gone either way, the guy stepped over the ball and impacted on play IMO. Again though the outcome of these type of decisions seems to differ depending who is manning the monitor, no consistency and basically an individuals opinion on a given situation.
 
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