Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Dan2501]

Liverpool have played an absolute ton of games this season already, the legs will be tiring, the chances of picking up injuries are higher, they've already lost a couple of key players to injuries. They have to rotate somewhere, and it's up to Klopp to decide where he wants to prioritise, has to be some give somewhere.

 

[pokerjoke]

A few years ago Mourinho binned off the pl and went all out for the CL via Europa league Because it was the more likely chance of success.

All teams will have priorities. Liverpool are much like Dortmund a few years back. They have a small squad and it needs rotating. You said in a previous post their form won’t guarantee a win against athletico atm where as it would have a few weeks ago. The same was true for the Chelsea game. They had already lost and he obviously decided that he wanted fresher legs for the league and CL.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I don’t agree at all
No team has ever blown a lead so big nowhere near.
Apparently some also Touting Liverpool’s team as the best P/L team ever,if that’s the case blowing a 20+ lead would be laughable.
Yes Klopp can prioritise it’s his prerogative,but don’t *** yourself when you put yourself in such a good position.

The first PL season 1992/3, Utd had finished runners up the year before and hadn’t won the title since the 60’s, Ferguson rotated his squad for the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup and went out of all 3 Cups early doors.
Agreed he never had the points advantage LPool have, but priority was to win the title, you remember how much stick yous took and the jokes because of the time period, yet you’d won other trophies during those years but it didn’t matter as the title was the be all and end all.

 

[pokerjoke]

The first PL season 1992/3, Utd had finished runners up the year before and hadn’t won the title since the 60’s, Ferguson rotated his squad for the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup and went out of all 3 Cups early doors.
Agreed he never had the points advantage LPool have, but priority was to win the title, you remember how much stick yous took and the jokes because of the time period, yet you’d won other trophies during those years but it didn’t matter as the title was the be all and end all.

28 years ago come on mate the games moved on.
The leagues won,if your worried your going to blow that lead you shouldn’t be in the game.
Worrying about injuries that may or may not happen,if we all thought like that we wouldn’t win nothing.
Klopp imo has started to feel the pressure big time.
They won’t win the CL the way they are playing atm so a PL title only is a bit of a let down for such a great team.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

28 years ago come on mate the games moved on.
The leagues won,if your worried your going to blow that lead you shouldn’t be in the game.
Worrying about injuries that may or may not happen,if we all thought like that we wouldn’t win nothing.
Klopp imo has started to feel the pressure big time.
They won’t win the CL the way they are playing atm so a PL title only is a bit of a let down for such a great team.

Time is irrelevant Tony, they are desperate to win the PL, nothing else matters atm, they need the monkey off their back!
As I said, if it was next season I’d agree with you.
Every PL Club, apart from Lpool dreams of winning the CL, to Lpool it’s not the biggie or priority right now.

 

[pokerjoke]

Time is irrelevant Tony, they are desperate to win the PL, nothing else matters atm, they need the monkey off their back!
As I said, if it was next season I’d agree with you.
Every PL Club, apart from Lpool dreams of winning the CL, to Lpool it’s not the biggie or priority right now.

To be honest you can keep saying there priority is the PL and I will agree with you.
Let’s look at why it’s won
Liverpool are the best team by miles
The league is the weakest ever
They are over 20 points clear.
You would have to seriously doubt yourself as a player,manager or supporter to think you were going to blow it from this position.
I’m not saying put the youths out for the rest of the season far from it.

 

[Swango1980]

Poor me! nobody likes me! looks like somebody needs some attention.

You’ve had an Everton fan, a Soton fan and (I think) a Chelsea fan laugh and ridicule you.

Do you honestly think any of those people want Lpool to win anything?

But to read the utter rubbish you posted is a joke and looks nothing more than a very biased, bitter, utd fan looking for a bite.

Funny. You heavily read between lines to try and make any discussion personal. Poor form really.

All I was saying that, once Liverpool won league, they will have achieved the same as Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Blackburn and Leicester. Nothing wrong with that, but that's simply the case.

I was also saying that it seems they do not necessarily have the ambition to push for more, and so not on the same level as sides that have done more in the past. Yet. I agree teams need to rotate. But, when they have built up the biggest lead in history on the league, you'd think they'd have given themselves the perfect opportunity to rest players in league games, and then massively push for every trophy. To become one of the greatest seasons in history of any club.

But, they haven't. And, that is fine, it's up to them. I can see why the desperation to win the league is so high, after so long without one.

Maybe they will get through in Champions League anyway, but I was ONLY saying that Liverpool are not at the same level as what other clubs have achieved in a season in the past. However, after this year, then next year they may well end up having the balls to strive for more. In just over a year time, we could be saying they've had the greatest season in history, or at least achieved as much as anyone else has.

However, people really need to calm down when an opinion is made that they cant handle. I'm not trying to troll here, I only responded to someone elses comment about Liverpool. But, if I was trolling, you rise to the bait perfectly

 

[Deleted member 16999]

To be honest you can keep saying there priority is the PL and I will agree with you.
Let’s look at why it’s won
Liverpool are the best team by miles
The league is the weakest ever
They are over 20 points clear.
You would have to seriously doubt yourself as a player,manager or supporter to think you were going to blow it from this position.
I’m not saying put the youths out for the rest of the season far from it.

I don’t think they are doubting themselves, simply playing his best 11 in the priority games, why risk an injury in an FA Cup tie? You can’t say to a player, “don’t worry if you get injured against Chelsea in the Cup and finish your season, we’ve won the PL”
He wants his first 11 in the games he chooses, he’s German, the Cup means very little.

 

[Swango1980]

I don’t think they are doubting themselves, simply playing his best 11 in the priority games, why risk an injury in an FA Cup tie? You can’t say to a player, “don’t worry if you get injured against Chelsea in the Cup and finish your season, we’ve won the PL”
He wants his first 11 in the games he chooses, he’s German, the Cup means very little.

He's German, the cup means very little. That's a good one. I'm sure the Liverpool fans that do like the FA Cup would be perfectly happy with that excuse.

Thankfully, he isn't a German who prioritises Champions League over PL. That would probably be a step too far.

 

[pokerjoke]

I don’t think they are doubting themselves, simply playing his best 11 in the priority games, why risk an injury in an FA Cup tie? You can’t say to a player, “don’t worry if you get injured against Chelsea in the Cup and finish your season, we’ve won the PL”
He wants his first 11 in the games he chooses, he’s German, the Cup means very little.

Every time a player steps on a pitch he risks injury.
Didn’t Alison get injured in training last week.
Imagine a son asking his dad wether he won the FA cup but the dad says no,but I didn’t get injured either.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Funny. You heavily read between lines to try and make any discussion personal. Poor form really.

All I was saying that, once Liverpool won league, they will have achieved the same as Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Blackburn and Leicester. Nothing wrong with that, but that's simply the case.

I was also saying that it seems they do not necessarily have the ambition to push for more, and so not on the same level as sides that have done more in the past. Yet. I agree teams need to rotate. But, when they have built up the biggest lead in history on the league, you'd think they'd have given themselves the perfect opportunity to rest players in league games, and then massively push for every trophy. To become one of the greatest seasons in history of any club.

But, they haven't. And, that is fine, it's up to them. I can see why the desperation to win the league is so high, after so long without one.

Maybe they will get through in Champions League anyway, but I was ONLY saying that Liverpool are not at the same level as what other clubs have achieved in a season in the past. However, after this year, then next year they may well end up having the balls to strive for more. In just over a year time, we could be saying they've had the greatest season in history, or at least achieved as much as anyone else has.

However, people really need to calm down when an opinion is made that they cant handle. I'm not trying to troll here, I only responded to someone elses comment about Liverpool. But, if I was trolling, you rise to the bait perfectly

Funny how in other threads we are told our opinions are wrong, we are clueless and should stick to facts.

Here’s a fact for you, how many other teams when winning the PL for the first time were already CL holders and World Club Champions?

Does that fact show you comparing a team winning the PL for the first time being held up against those having the great seasons you mention only having won the PL previously as fair?

Your biase against Lpool is as plain as day and your trolling is just as obvious.

 

[Tashyboy]

Hmmmmmm, what an interesting read re Liverpool.
First thing re League cup

Your opinion was based on Liverpool rotating for a cup game, and deciding it showed a lack of ambition, when quite simply the fa cup is the lowest priority of theirs left to play for.
The fa/league cup only matter to the big teams when they are out of contention for the league.

Liverpool have a relatively small squad, and whilst the title is all but sewn up. I'm sure they'd rather win the CL for what is it, the 7th time? So it makes sense. Because if they get past Madrid, then the FA cup would be a burden.

Not when it comes to Man City. All cups matter, but yes there are priorites.

Back to Liverpool. Last season I thought there football and City’s were as good as I have seen. Unfortunately there had to be a winner and a loser. I thought Liverpool’s football last year was better than this seasons. But City won th league so does that make them a better team. Argue amongst yourselves re that. But they finished the season as European and world club winners. Not a bad effort.
Roll onto this season, they have walked it, City have not turned up for various reasons, neither have most other teams re challengers, but try telling Sheff Utd and Wolves fans etc it’s a poor year. But a couple of months ago Liverpool were mentioned in the same breath as the invincibles and other great teams of the past. Again argue amongst yourselves over that one again. However like nigh on all teams in the prem they have hit a rough patch which no one saw coming. In that period they have gone out of the FA cup, behind in the Champs league. And lost One game in the prem, One game. It’s not the end of the world by a million miles, but that unbeaten run. That air of invincibility, That mentioned in the same breath as the invincibles has gone.
So do the Liverpool fans care? If I was one I wouldn’t give a toss. I still remember that Agueroooooooooooooooooooo moment. That spine tingling run down your back when you know you are the Champs of the Prem league for the first time ever. That’s what they want, that’s what they will get, that’s what this year they have earned.
My concern as a City fan is once they have had a taste they will want another. Under Klopp Ave a feeling the foundations of this Liverpool team have been laid for a few years.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Every time a player steps on a pitch he risks injury.
Didn’t Alison get injured in training last week.
Imagine a son asking his dad wether he won the FA cup but the dad says no,but I didn’t get injured either.

Probably won’t mention the FA Cup as he’ll be cleaning his PL, CL and World Club medals.

 

[Papas1982]

Hmmmmmm, what an interesting read re Liverpool.
First thing re League cup



Not when it comes to Man City. All cups matter, but yes there are priorites.

Back to Liverpool. Last season I thought there football and City’s were as good as I have seen. Unfortunately there had to be a winner and a loser. I thought Liverpool’s football last year was better than this seasons. But City won th league so does that make them a better team. Argue amongst yourselves re that. But they finished the season as European and world club winners. Not a bad effort.
Roll onto this season, they have walked it, City have not turned up for various reasons, neither have most other teams re challengers, but try telling Sheff Utd and Wolves fans etc it’s a poor year. But a couple of months ago Liverpool were mentioned in the same breath as the invincibles and other great teams of the past. Again argue amongst yourselves over that one again. However like nigh on all teams in the prem they have hit a rough patch which no one saw coming. In that period they have gone out of the FA cup, behind in the Champs league. And lost One game in the prem, One game. It’s not the end of the world by a million miles, but that unbeaten run. That air of invincibility, That mentioned in the same breath as the invincibles has gone.
So do the Liverpool fans care? If I was one I wouldn’t give a toss. I still remember that Agueroooooooooooooooooooo moment. That spine tingling run down your back when you know you are the Champs of the Prem league for the first time ever. That’s what they want, that’s what they will get, that’s what this year they have earned.
My concern as a City fan is once they have had a taste they will want another. Under Klopp Ave a feeling the foundations of this Liverpool team have been laid for a few years.

I think there are two reasons why it is slightly different for city.

One, the sheer size of squad. You do still rotate in the cups, but it isn't as obvious due to the players you can still call on.
Secondly, with the greatest respect, your clubs profile simply isn't or at least wan't as big as the rivals you've gained since the financial input of your owners.

That's not a dig btw, i know historically you have won a little bit, BUT in the TV era (gaining worldwide support) you aren't in the same league as the rest. So the more cups you win, the better it is for your club from a marketing POV.

 

[Swango1980]

Funny how in other threads we are told our opinions are wrong, we are clueless and should stick to facts.

Here’s a fact for you, how many other teams when winning the PL for the first time were already CL holders and World Club Champions?

Does that fact show you comparing a team winning the PL for the first time being held up against those having the great seasons you mention only having won the PL previously as fair?

Your biase against Lpool is as plain as day and your trolling is just as obvious.

Again, not strictly correct. In other threads, I have only defended my position. Others tell me I am wrong, but if I try and flip the argument, they have none of it.

It is true, as a fan, I dislike Liverpool. I don't enjoy seeing them play well, but I'll hold my hands up when they do. Not once, do people like yourself, acknowledge what I say when I give Liverpool credit. But, as soon as I say something that could be deemed even slightly negative, time for you to jump down my throat again.

Maybe Man Utd fans are simply not allowed their opinion, unless it is a positive one.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Wow, some real shite being spouted and LP is nowhere to be seen ??

 

[Tashyboy]

Wow, some real shite being spouted and LP is nowhere to be seen ??

Why is he on holiday.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Why is he on holiday.

Must be, new post numbers have dipped...haven't you noticed?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Why is he on holiday.

Dunno Tashy old boy

 

[clubchamp98]

Again, not strictly correct. In other threads, I have only defended my position. Others tell me I am wrong, but if I try and flip the argument, they have none of it.

It is true, as a fan, I dislike Liverpool. I don't enjoy seeing them play well, but I'll hold my hands up when they do. Not once, do people like yourself, acknowledge what I say when I give Liverpool credit. But, as soon as I say something that could be deemed even slightly negative, time for you to jump down my throat again.

Maybe Man Utd fans are simply not allowed their opinion, unless it is a positive one.

Anyone can have an opinion.
But Klopps in charge of the train and he’s blowing his whistle , it dosnt matter what we think!
He will do what is best for LFC.