Beezerk
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Pint of bitter for me please.
Pint of bitter for me please.
HomerJSimpson
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The article is right to question the sponsorship tie in, using Rooney's name and the effect of gambling as a wider issue but can you really blame Derby for making the most of the opportunity. Surely it's time for the powers that be (government, FA??) to ban betting advertising in the same way tobacco advertising is prohibited, not just on football shirts but on TV advertising as well
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Pep certainly doesn’t like being told that he is in lucky position that he can spend whatever he wants - same when he was at Barce and Munich - great manager but will be interesting to see if he could have the same success if he took over a team not getting yearly success and had to balance the books more or he had to bring players through from the youth team instead of just spending. He isn’t quite the chequebook manager but close
And their fans always seem to forgot how much money has actually spent by their managers without having to sell etc
Tashyboy
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I thought this when I read the article Homer, worryingly for me was Derby selling off there ground and renting? The article goes onto say how getting into the prem assures financial security. Am not to sure about that either. Am with you re cannot blame Derby, but once more betting firms involved with football. Remember Paddy Power the other week. When and where is the line drawn re betting companies and football.
HomerJSimpson
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Chequebook or not look at the City success. To be fair though look at who Liverpool have brought in over the last few years too. Is it not fair to say Klopp is not a chequebook manager trying to buy a squad to win the PL. It is part and parcel of being a top 3 side. You need to be buying and improving year on year, especially if you have CL aspirations as you know all the major players in Europe (Real, PSG, Juve, Bayern etc) will all be doing the same. Does that make them all chequebook teams?
Dan2501
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Ooof. Seeing Dybala, Lo Celso and Sessegnon to Spurs today. Bloody good window for them if they complete those three. Ndombele, Dybala, Lo Celso and Sessegnon is seriously good going, such a difference from last summer.
HomerJSimpson
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From my point of view Sessignon was just waiting to happen and surprised both sides haven't pushed this through earlier and got it done. He was always heading to Spurs and I think with some good management and playing time he really could be a top English player in a few years and will definitely be a full England player regularly. Not sure how close to completion the others are but definitely a statement of intent for the season by Spurs if they are all done deals
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Every top side can be classed as a chequebook side, but it's the size and number of cheques that separates City now - and Chelsea when Roman first arrived - from the rest.
Klopp may have a maximum of say 4 cheques with a value of £200m to cash in over the course of a season. Pep probably has that per transfer window.
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And the cheques that most clubs cash is from money earned by the club - we have splashed cash recently but on the back off players sales and better financial deals - our owner doesn’t give the club money to spend , 90% of the cheques signed by City come from the pockets of an oil man.
And as Klopp says Pep can prob happily spend £200mil in the window and the club is fine , others clubs will need to balance any spend out. Pep picks his clubs well
Tashyboy
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Thing is though Dan, Spurs are kicking on from last season. They have had a sniff of the promised land and like it. There thin squad, similar to Liverpools is being strengthened. It has been a topic of conversation re the depth of the Spurs squad. Not now. Wonder if Liverpool have owt up there sleeve. Can see Spurs as serious contenders this Season.
Tashyboy
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Don't know whether he has or not (£200million), but the days of paying what City think are over the odds have long gone. Fred, Sanchez, VVD, Maguire to name but a few. Look at the age of Citys squad. D Silva in his last year, Aguero and Fernandinho possibly the end of next. But it's a youthful squad. He now don't have to pay excessive fees. Of the top eleven sums paid for players in positions. How many have City paid the most for. One, Mendy at left back.
HomerJSimpson
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Back to the oil man moan again. Always the same. Accept it as it ain't changing soon. No different to when Roman arrived at Chelsea and effectively bought a team to win the PL.
Dan2501
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You're getting as bad as Sawtooth was when Arsenal weren't buying anyone under Wenger. Citys yearly revenue last year was the 5th highest in the world, and $65m more than Liverpools. It's not 2010 anymore, City are a genuinely massive club whose net spend is no longer crazy and that make an absolute fortune commercially every year.
Tashyboy
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Still like " liddle Citeh" though Dan. To be honest am loving me time as a City fan, but last night whilst channel surfing I came across the " we're not really here" programme on Sky. God how it took me back to the good old days.
For us old fossils who followed football through the 70's onwards. Happy memories. Don't get me wrong there's been some bad uns. But flippin eck ave had me share of ups and downs.
Off golfin. ðŸ‘
PJ87
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Don’t think we will pull off the midfielder we wanted aswel but our window now stands as
Roberto (back up keeper)
Martin (3rd choice keeper)
Fornals (cracking play maker)
Haller (striker)
Cardoso (young cb, highly rated from Portugal)
Ajeti (Swiss international striker from basil)
Boom 👌
Roberto (back up keeper)
Martin (3rd choice keeper)
Fornals (cracking play maker)
Haller (striker)
Cardoso (young cb, highly rated from Portugal)
Ajeti (Swiss international striker from basil)
Boom 👌
MegaSteve
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Haven't there been questions raised on how city 'create' the impression of being high revenue earners...
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Which club is currently under investigation by 3 different governing bodies for FFP irregularties ? City
They are only in the position they are in now because they were able to spend spend spend - 1billion net transfer in ten season , thats 1 billion net. Even their commercial income is dubious when a significant amount of it comes from the middle east oil again.
They spent billions getting to the team now with it come from an owners pocket - it gets ignored by a good deal amount of City fans but they are there only because of the money from someones pocket , and that could very much come to bite them back. In one area Sawtooth was very much spot on in regards the funding for certain clubs and it has nothing to do with us not spending a fortune this summer.
Exactly - the financial morals at City are very much dubious
Dan2501
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In the past maybe, but they've become less and less reliant on Arab commercial partners, matchday revenue is continually rising, TV revenue constantly rising, and since Txiki took over the transfers the wages have been under much stricter control dropping from 114% of total income to 52%. In the early days of Mansour they did spend an absolute fortune but with a long-term goal, one they're starting to realise. They've built a now sustainable football club with massive revenue, commercial strength and on the pitch success. They deserve a lot of credit I think.
USER1999
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Where are Tottenham getting that kind of money? The stadium was massively over budget, and they are traditionally low payers for wages, and transfers. Hmm. Spending 200m odd in one window? Don't get it.
Dan2501
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They spent nothing last year. Sold Dembele, sold Trippier, sold Janssen, ~£70m for making the CL final + TV money and the possibility of Eriksen going to Madrid. Don't think they're short on cash.
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