Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Liverbirdie]

Klopp adjusted his tactics to make the midfield more functional, more workmanlike , energy and drive when Coutinho left - he has his midfield three spots and a Coutinho type doesn’t sit there now and he doesn’t spend unless he really sees the player enhancing the first 11 and there aren’t that many on the market that can ( beyond the obvious superstars ). We can just as easily progress with the squad we have

But we could also play a 4-2-3-1 with a Coutinho in it.

2 sitters, and with someone who can supply the bullets and also weigh in with a few, especially at home. 4-3-3 away at some of the big guns, but Ive felt for a bit that for 75% of our games a 4-2-3-1 may suit us better.

We also need more cover for our front 3. Zaha would be my pick.

 

[clubchamp98]

We had two of three golden boot winners in the team last season - and who does he replace ?



Creativity comes in many forms -Gerrard was creative but coming from running with the ball which is something you will see from both Ox and Keita

And we can’t have £65mil players sat on the bench waiting for serious injury or waiting to replace Salah which is why Klopp won’t spend that sort of money unless it’s replacing someone who is leaving - Origi , Shaqiri etc will do a job coming off the bench just like they did crucially a number of times last season. Klopp is very particular about the players he brings in and the sort of squad he wants - very small , person , tight knit , no big egos and must have the right attitude

We had a bit of rotation in the team except up front ,they looked knackered late on and just think we need a poacher.
Watched Salah have a few poor games but he stayed on the pitch because he’s the main threat.
We just need another option, but as I said these players are rare.
I honestly belive if we had a poacher we would have won the games we drew last year and prob have won the league.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But we could also play a 4-2-3-1 with a Coutinho in it.

2 sitters, and with someone who can supply the bullets and also weigh in with a few, especially at home. 4-3-3 away at some of the big guns, but Ive felt for a bit that for 75% of our games a 4-2-3-1 may suit us better.

We also need more cover for our front 3. Zaha would be my pick.

He did play 4-2-3-1 a few times with Bobby/Shaqiri dropping into the 3 and Mo being the one - worked against some but not others , but if looking that way would prefer a Dybala or Eriksen but not the snake

Zaha would be great as cover but we aren’t going to spend that much on cover

 

[Slime]

That would free up Eriksen to United, too.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

[Slime]

Do you still see Fernandes as a defensive mid ?

No, although he CAN play in that role, he's just better suited as an attacking midfielder.
I'd still sooner see him play as a defensive midfielder than Matic.

 

[clubchamp98]

He did play 4-2-3-1 a few times with Bobby/Shaqiri dropping into the 3 and Mo being the one - worked against some but not others , but if looking that way would prefer a Dybala or Eriksen but not the snake

Zaha would be great as cover but we aren’t going to spend that much on cover

Would he be cover though if we rotated the four upfront it would give them a break ,especially in a very long season.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

No, although he CAN play in that role, he's just better suited as an attacking midfielder.
I'd still sooner see him play as a defensive midfielder than Matic.

He isn’t in any shape or form a defensive mid but I hope you buy him and play him there alongside Pogba - it would be great to see

Would he be cover though if we rotated the four upfront it would give them a break ,especially in a very long season.

Klopp doesn’t seem to want to break up the three - they are going to play 99% of the games , it seems that how he wants them to play so he isn’t going to spend £75mil on Zaha

 

[clubchamp98]

He isn’t in any shape or form a defensive mid but I hope you buy him and play him there alongside Pogba - it would be great to see


Klopp doesn’t seem to want to break up the three - they are going to play 99% of the games , it seems that how he wants them to play so he isn’t going to spend £75mil on Zaha

Yes I think you will be right .
We are told all the time that these players can’t play all the games all the time.
I hope he uses some of the young lads a bit more there maybe a Fowler/ Owen in there somewhere.
But I think Zaha would fit ,just don’t like the diving.

 

[Liverbirdie]

He did play 4-2-3-1 a few times with Bobby/Shaqiri dropping into the 3 and Mo being the one - worked against some but not others , but if looking that way would prefer a Dybala or Eriksen but not the snake

Zaha would be great as cover but we aren’t going to spend that much on cover

When we moved Bobby round his game suffered.

I dont see why we cant by 1 very good player for £50 mill plus, with the money we've got in for Ings, Solanke and with Moreno and Sturridge off the wage bill.

You cant just hope that the front 3 are always available and wont pick up injuries. If we got Zaha also, rotate the 4 of them over 6 odd games.

 

[Swingalot]

Zaha is not going anywhere.

He said while praying.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

When we moved Bobby round his game suffered.

I dont see why we cant by 1 very good player for £50 mill plus, with the money we've got in for Ings, Solanke and with Moreno and Sturridge off the wage bill.

You cant just hope that the front 3 are always available and wont pick up injuries. If we got Zaha also, rotate the 4 of them over 6 odd games.

I don’t see it being a money issue more Klopp is happy with the settled squad and the players he has - he doesn’t seem a massive rotater on certain areas , same when he was at Dortmund- likes to keep the midfield fresh but keep the forward line consistent , and it’s going to be very hard for someone to come into that forward line. I think Zaha would be great to be in the squad and come in every now and then but I don’t think he would move to us because of the front three we have already

 

[Dan2501]

I don’t see it being a money issue more Klopp is happy with the settled squad and the players he has - he doesn’t seem a massive rotater on certain areas , same when he was at Dortmund- likes to keep the midfield fresh but keep the forward line consistent , and it’s going to be very hard for someone to come into that forward line. I think Zaha would be great to be in the squad and come in every now and then but I don’t think he would move to us because of the front three we have already

Keeping a settled front-line makes sense, but issue comes if you get a couple of injuries and there's no-one in the squad to back them up. Origi and Shaqiri are decent and did okay last year, but they're not at the same level as Salah, Mane or Firmino, and after them who have you got? Liverpool won the CL, the money is there to bolster the squad, I just don't understand why they haven't bought anyone. You look at a team like City last season who already had an incredibly strong attack but decided to spend a fortune on Riyad Mahrez to bolster the squad and improve the squad depth, and it worked, he might not have been a starter, but he bagged 12 goals and 12 assists in all competitions for them and was a perfect back-up/sub when they needed to rotate. I don't see why Liverpool aren't making a similar move this summer, especially when players like Pepe, Fekir, Dybala, Cutrone, Kean, Zaha and Maxi Gomez have been available this summer. I guess we'll see how it plays out this season.

 

[Slime]

Can someone please sack Ed Woodward .............................................. NOW!

 

[Orikoru]

This is like the old Spurs windows, haha. Linked to every player under the sun, then come deadline - Llorente re-signs on a one year deal.

Was a pleasant surprised when the Dybala agreed fee was announced, but I'll be very surprised if we offer enough wages to tempt him. I feel like this Dybala and Coutinho stuff is just fake news to try and get Lo Celso £5m cheaper. That would be very Levy.

A right back would be nice still as well.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Keeping a settled front-line makes sense, but issue comes if you get a couple of injuries and there's no-one in the squad to back them up. Origi and Shaqiri are decent and did okay last year, but they're not at the same level as Salah, Mane or Firmino, and after them who have you got? Liverpool won the CL, the money is there to bolster the squad, I just don't understand why they haven't bought anyone. You look at a team like City last season who already had an incredibly strong attack but decided to spend a fortune on Riyad Mahrez to bolster the squad and improve the squad depth, and it worked, he might not have been a starter, but he bagged 12 goals and 12 assists in all competitions for them and was a perfect back-up/sub when they needed to rotate. I don't see why Liverpool aren't making a similar move this summer, especially when players like Pepe, Fekir, Dybala, Cutrone, Kean, Zaha and Maxi Gomez have been available this summer. I guess we'll see how it plays out this season.

City can afford to spend £50mil and then the massive wages to have someone sit on the bench “in case of injury”

It’s not right for other teams to “compare” against City when they are in a position that others can’t achieve - and even then they are starting to have to deal with players being unhappy like Sane , Mahrez and Jesus.

Yes we have money there but Klopp only spends when he really wants a player - the players listed im going to suggest Klopp doesn’t seem that as a player that fits into the team and even more so when at the money some of them are going for plus the wages

It would be great to be in a position to have £70mil players with their £300k wages sat on the bench but we as a club aren’t going to be in a position to do that. And really being honest Zaha is prob the only one out of your list to take into the squad - Dybala is very talented but last season struggled - not sure about the rest and Fekir was never going to come after his medical issues.

As I said I think the window this summer hasn’t really been flushed with high talented that would make the club dip into the pockets and Klopp doesn’t spend for the sake of it

 

[Orikoru]

City can afford to spend £50mil and then the massive wages to have someone sit on the bench “in case of injury”

It’s not right for other teams to “compare” against City when they are in a position that others can’t achieve - and even then they are starting to have to deal with players being unhappy like Sane , Mahrez and Jesus.

Yes we have money there but Klopp only spends when he really wants a player - the players listed im going to suggest Klopp doesn’t seem that as a player that fits into the team and even more so when at the money some of them are going for plus the wages

It would be great to be in a position to have £70mil players with their £300k wages sat on the bench but we as a club aren’t going to be in a position to do that. And really being honest Zaha is prob the only one out of your list to take into the squad - Dybala is very talented but last season struggled - not sure about the rest and Fekir was never going to come after his medical issues.

As I said I think the window this summer hasn’t really been flushed with high talented that would make the club dip into the pockets and Klopp doesn’t spend for the sake of it

This is absolutely hilarious. A year ago when Spurs hadn't bought anyone, you were the one saying we were mad not to strengthen, I was the one saying we can't pay huge amounts for players to come and sit on the bench and you were dismissing it. Absolute gold.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

This is absolutely hilarious. A year ago when Spurs hadn't bought anyone, you were the one saying we were mad not to strengthen, I was the one saying we can't pay huge amounts for players to come and sit on the bench and you were dismissing it. Absolute gold.

What did Spurs win with that squad ? How did they fair last season after not buying anyone ? Do Liverpool have their main player spending 1/3 of the season out of the team injured ? Did Liverpool also sell one of the main first team players ( Dembele ) - Liverpool have spent millions over the last couple of seasons to get the squad to a point that they won the CL and challenged City all season long - how about Spurs ? We do have cover - that cover came in a number of times when players were out and that cover scored crucial goals to help us win the CL. I have no doubt we will have the same sort of season - Challenging for the title and the CL right down to the wire.

If Spurs had spent on buying one more decent forward and then not had to rush Kane back so many times when he clearly wasn’t fit - imagine how different it could have been in the CL

 

[Orikoru]

What did Spurs win with that squad ? How did they fair last season after not buying anyone ? Do Liverpool have their main player spending 1/3 of the season out of the team injured ? Did Liverpool also sell one of the main first team players ( Dembele ) - Liverpool have spent millions over the last couple of seasons to get the squad to a point that they won the CL and challenged City all season long - how about Spurs ? We do have cover - that cover came in a number of times when players were out and that cover scored crucial goals to help us win the CL. I have no doubt we will have the same sort of season - Challenging for the title and the CL right down to the wire.

If Spurs had spent on buying one more decent forward and then not had to rush Kane back so many times when he clearly wasn’t fit - imagine how different it could have been in the CL

We didn't have to rush Kane back, we had Lucas Moura banging hat tricks. Starting Kane in the final was simply a poor decision.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Keeping a settled front-line makes sense, but issue comes if you get a couple of injuries and there's no-one in the squad to back them up. Origi and Shaqiri are decent and did okay last year, but they're not at the same level as Salah, Mane or Firmino, and after them who have you got? Liverpool won the CL, the money is there to bolster the squad, I just don't understand why they haven't bought anyone. You look at a team like City last season who already had an incredibly strong attack but decided to spend a fortune on Riyad Mahrez to bolster the squad and improve the squad depth, and it worked, he might not have been a starter, but he bagged 12 goals and 12 assists in all competitions for them and was a perfect back-up/sub when they needed to rotate. I don't see why Liverpool aren't making a similar move this summer, especially when players like Pepe, Fekir, Dybala, Cutrone, Kean, Zaha and Maxi Gomez have been available this summer. I guess we'll see how it plays out this season.

Bang on.

If one gets injured, we then look a good deal weaker. Just because Origi scored some important goals last year doesnt mean he's adequate back up, although I hope he is.

I'm pinning my hopes either on a late deal for someone, or hoping that Jurgen has something up his sleeve for January.

 

[Tashyboy]

Keeping a settled front-line makes sense, but issue comes if you get a couple of injuries and there's no-one in the squad to back them up. Origi and Shaqiri are decent and did okay last year, but they're not at the same level as Salah, Mane or Firmino, and after them who have you got? Liverpool won the CL, the money is there to bolster the squad, I just don't understand why they haven't bought anyone. You look at a team like City last season who already had an incredibly strong attack but decided to spend a fortune on Riyad Mahrez to bolster the squad and improve the squad depth, and it worked, he might not have been a starter, but he bagged 12 goals and 12 assists in all competitions for them and was a perfect back-up/sub when they needed to rotate. I don't see why Liverpool aren't making a similar move this summer, especially when players like Pepe, Fekir, Dybala, Cutrone, Kean, Zaha and Maxi Gomez have been available this summer. I guess we'll see how it plays out this season.

This is quite a good write up, and totally agree with the Liverpool subs not being to the front threes standards. But in the same sense Origi has scored some massively important goals for the Pool. He just needs to do it more often. Thing is re Mahrez. He had a bit of an iffy first year, but so did D Silva and B Silva. Would expect a good bit more from him this year now he knows the system. Especially if Leroy goes to Bayern. I think one advantage City have over the Pool is there ability to get goals from all over the park with players playing in more than one position. I mentioned about some clubs having a happy transfer window. Don't think it is done yet.
Re countino, what's left on his contract at Barca for him to go out on loan.