Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Deleted member 15344]

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FIFA announce the short list for Best Player

Who is going to win and who should win ?

For me it’s got to be VVD - been the best player over the past year and key to us winning the CL


There there is best coach

https://www.soccerladuma.co.za/news...ees-for-2019-the-best-fifa-men-s-coach/660203

Klopp or Pep I guess

 

[Pin-seeker]

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FIFA announce the short list for Best Player

Who is going to win and who should win ?

For me it’s got to be VVD - been the best player over the past year and key to us winning the CL


There there is best coach

https://www.soccerladuma.co.za/news...ees-for-2019-the-best-fifa-men-s-coach/660203

Klopp or Pep I guess

VVD & Klopp 👍🏻

 

[ColchesterFC]

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FIFA announce the short list for Best Player

Who is going to win and who should win ?

For me it’s got to be VVD - been the best player over the past year and key to us winning the CL


There there is best coach

https://www.soccerladuma.co.za/news...ees-for-2019-the-best-fifa-men-s-coach/660203

Klopp or Pep I guess

Wouldn't argue if VVD won the award for best player but could argue with best coach. There's no doubt that Pep and Klopp are very good coaches but why do these awards always seem to go to the biggest clubs. It can't be that hard to be a top coach if you can spend £50 million or more to fill a gap in your squad.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Wouldn't argue if VVD won the award for best player but could argue with best coach. There's no doubt that Pep and Klopp are very good coaches but why do these awards always seem to go to the biggest clubs. It can't be that hard to be a top coach if you can spend £50 million or more to fill a gap in your squad.

Totally agree. It has to be easier with the best players and best resources and facilities and while you still have to manage and coach them to produce, surely its easier to be a Pep or Klopp than one of those managers with a far more limited squad and resources.

 

[Slime]

Is that Fernandes the attacking midfielder ?! Replacing a defensive midfielder? - god I hope so because that would leave those poor CB’s even more exposed.

With Matic in the team, they're already exposed.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Totally agree. It has to be easier with the best players and best resources and facilities and while you still have to manage and coach them to produce, surely its easier to be a Pep or Klopp than one of those managers with a far more limited squad and resources.

What a stupid comment.

That's the same in most sports, best players win and or the team with the most money (F1 example) win.
A manager can only work with what hes got.

Would you expect Pep to win the league and play the way he does with say a Palace or a Burnley?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Wouldn't argue if VVD won the award for best player but could argue with best coach. There's no doubt that Pep and Klopp are very good coaches but why do these awards always seem to go to the biggest clubs. It can't be that hard to be a top coach if you can spend £50 million or more to fill a gap in your squad.

Mourinhos last job has proved it's not just about buying expensive players.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

With Matic in the team, they're already exposed.

Then the need should be to spend £60/70 mil ( the cost of Fernandes ) on a defensive midfielder to replace Matic - Fernandes isn’t a player to sit deep and protect - he will fill that same role that Pogba wants or Mata or Dybala etc - hence why I think the players OGS is going for seem strange

 

[HomerJSimpson]

What a stupid comment.

That's the same in most sports, best players win and or the team with the most money (F1 example) win.
A manager can only work with what hes got.

Would you expect Pep to win the league and play the way he does with say a Palace or a Burnley?

F1 money has ruined the sport decades ago and so we all know its basically a two team event. My point was these awards seemingly go to managers with large budgets, better resources and rarely does a role like Espirito Santo and guiding Wolves to 7th and Europa league get the recognition it deserves.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Should the Ajax bloke not win the best coach award? Limited resources, team always being stripped of its best players. Won their domestic league, got to the CL semi final beating huge teams on the way, playing lovely football. That was some good coaching!

 

[Tashyboy]

One would suggest that seeing as Pep has not had one player nominated. His achievement is even greater. Having read what Bernado Silva has won last season, and not just with City but portugal. And player of the tournament on top. Am gobsmacked he was not even nominated. Allison had more golden gloves than hands. Yet no mention. Shocking

 

[Dan2501]

Van Dijk's great, but it's Messi for Ballon D'or for me. 51 goals in 50 games, La Liga title, CL Semi final. Too good not to get it I think.

As for the coach, its probably Klopp, although I would like to see Ten Hag pick it up, has done an exceptional job re-building Ajax bringing through youth and creating a style of play that can compete with the best teams in Europe. Can't argue with Klopp's results though, so probably should be him.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Should the Ajax bloke not win the best coach award? Limited resources, team always being stripped of its best players. Won their domestic league, got to the CL semi final beating huge teams on the way, playing lovely football. That was some good coaching!

The coach at Ajax will be a good shout and certainly a worth winner

Van Dijk's great, but it's Messi for Ballon D'or for me. 51 goals in 50 games, La Liga title, CL Semi final. Too good not to get it I think.

As for the coach, its probably Klopp, although I would like to see Ten Hag pick it up, has done an exceptional job re-building Ajax bringing through youth and creating a style of play that can compete with the best teams in Europe. Can't argue with Klopp's results though, so probably should be him.

Messi always scores loads in La Liga and it will be the obvious choice - he score lots but it would be a shame to not see past that and look at his impact in his two real big games - second leg semi Final in CL , totally outplayed by VVD and was missing again in a big CL game for them , then onto the Copa America - missing again. No doubt his league stats are great and Barcelona cruised to the league but surely needs to be a touch more ?

 

[Wolf]

I think Ten Hag should get the manager award for what he's done with Ajax is superb, but can see Klopp getting it and it wouldn't be undeserved to be fair.

Big fan of Messi but realistically what has he done different this season to past seasons. VVD on the other hand been an absolute rock for Liverpool and more deserving of the accolade.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Are defenders or GK allowed to win? . About bloomin time one of them did win, VVD all the way for me.

 

[Wolf]

Are defenders or GK allowed to win? . About bloomin time one of them did win, VVD all the way for me.

Lev Yashin as far as I'm aware remains the only GK to have one won the award.

I know Fabio Cannavaro won in 2006 but no defender has since and not sure about before that.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Lev Yashin as far as I'm aware remains the only GK to have one won the award.

I know Fabio Cannavaro won in 2006 but no defender has since and not sure about before that.

There was a year when Bayern were dominant and Neuer should have won. Bonnucci, Lam, endless others. Not as sexy as the big two so they get ovelooked. I stopped following this a while ago, it is a back slapping exercise similar to film awards. (grumpy moment )

 

[Papas1982]

For me I’d go with Ten Hag, but as others have said. Klopp isn’t a bad choice either. Wouldn’t go for Pep, technically worse in the league than the previous and domestic cup success is irrelevant.

Re player of the year. I think it should be Virgil, but the argument about one poor game for Messi (second leg) could be countered by VVD not being great in first leg. It sure the Copa America has ever really been used as a deciding factor.

I’d like to see VVD win, but would not be at all surprised if the media darling gets it.

 

[Orikoru]

I know they want rid of Lukaku, but why are United stockpiling wingers and attacking mids by potentially bringing Dybala in? Their squad is woefully light on decent centre backs, yet they're trying to add Dybala to the list of Martial, Lingard, Sanchez, Mata, James, & arguably stepping on the toes of Pogba as well if he doesn't leave. Seems like the balance is totally off. They're not exactly blessed with good holding midfield players either. It's like a Ferrari with moped engine at the minute.

 

[Tashyboy]

I know they want rid of Lukaku, but why are United stockpiling wingers and attacking mids by potentially bringing Dybala in? Their squad is woefully light on decent centre backs, yet they're trying to add Dybala to the list of Martial, Lingard, Sanchez, Mata, James, & arguably stepping on the toes of Pogba as well if he doesn't leave. Seems like the balance is totally off. They're not exactly blessed with good holding midfield players either. It's like a Ferrari with moped engine at the minute.

As a City fan reading that last sentence. Music to my ears.